Please, avoid talking about those
"24-hours-a-day-coffee-and-cigarettes-no-lunch-at-regular-intervals" days
8-)
I left those aside and am resting a bit. Though I'll get back to C++ soon.
Got some encryption implementation work to do. (mummy, where are you!!)

lol

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: [PHP/ASP] Class v/s Procedural
>
>
> glad to see we agree then ;o)
>
> I think it really all stems back to having to write algorithms
> and data structures in
> C...
>
> Probably made me a tad biasd ;o)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> > Paul Larue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mark,
> > I'm ok with all that. I was just guessing wether or not procedural
> > code was
> > faster than classes in a web environment. In a workstation
> > environment you
> > can easily compile you classes as DLL's or equivalent to the system
> > and
> > cache them (you can also do that with web environment but you need to
> > have
> > your own server!). This causes calls to the classes to be much more
> > faster.
> >
> > I'm fine with all you said... specially people being lazy with their
> > SQL. We
> > too often see "select * from table" then a loop in the recordset to
> > find a
> > specific record where the whole thing could have been done using a
> > where
> > condition in the SQL itself!
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:40 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: [PHP/ASP] Class v/s Procedural
> > >
> > >
> > > > But later I turned down to classes since those
> > > > offer more advantages and are easier to manage. But are they
> > faster
> > > > and do they really provide performance increases?
> > >
> > > Personally I've always been taught 2 things
> > >
> > > (1) Sofware design is more important than anything else
> > > (2) Make it work first, then optimise.
> > >
> > > If you have good software design, you develop faster, and its
> > > cheaper to do.. and
> > > the rest of those good things.
> > >
> > > If you develop something that works, then find the bottlenecks,
> > > then you actually
> > > KNOW where the bottlenecks are, rather than guessing.
> > >
> > > Sure there are plenty of little tips and tricks you do during
> > > coding to make stuff a
> > > bit faster... but just just because you could write everything
> > > inline and make it run
> > > faster? Would you? hell no.. can't read it worth diddley squat.
> > >
> > > Final comment - your BIGGEST slowdown on a site is your Database
> > > Queries. If
> > > you want to make things optimised, work there. Cache your
> > > queries, design your
> > > DB better, and write concise SQL that does ALL the work you need
> > > it to, without
> > > having to get your code (ASP, PHP, whatever) to do any additional
> > work.
> > > (I have a pet peeve about this... people are lazy with their SQL)
> > >
> > > Hope that makes sense.
> > >
> > > Feel free to disagree ;o)
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
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