From: rudy 

> the site is totally useless with javascript turned off

Hmmm. Rudy, my suggestion to you, as a user of the WWW, would be to stop
disabling features of your browser that were developed to enhance your
browsing experience. Then, as a developer, find a survey - or conduct one
yourself, to find out how many average individuals disable Javascript in
their browser, know they can turn it off, or even know what Javascript
actually is. I've done a little survey of my own recently, which included an
Associate Professor of Biomedical  Engineering (my wife) and the Director of
IT for a multi-national corporation (my brother). All those surveyed were
frequent users of the WWW and none of them had Javascript turned off. Some
of them made a pretty accurate guess at how to disabling Javascript but none
knew exactly how to do it. I submit that Javascript is not an evil creature
laying in wait for the unsuspecting web surfer but rather a useful tool. Do
you lock away your carpenter's hammer and use your shoe to drive nails
because you heard tales of people who have smashed them thumbs? I doubt it. 



> so boo for using javascript to sniff my browser and then fail to deliver a
> working stylesheet which just happens to contain eveything functional

Despite me belief that Javascript is a viable tool, I agree here. I should
have provided for the event of complete JS failure by leaving a latent style
sheet.


> but yay for not giving me the rude "Sorry, your browser does not meet
> current W3C standards and needs to be updated to see this page properly."
> message

Try looking with NN4.7. Now that would be rude.

> the site looks nice but for accessibility, i must give it a failing grade
Then again, I did indicate that I was still working on the site. You can't
fail me until I'm done. ;)

Perry Gerenday
http://www.webinitiative.net

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