Thanks for the honest feedback. The main reason I have the design left aligned 
right 
now is because it is in development still and I want to get the design down pat 
before 
centering it and optimizing for different monitors. I agree about the centering 
personall 
[unfortunately most of the internet thinks just the opposite, they start right 
to left and 
leave it that way] having empty space on either side draws the eye towards the 
content. 
The thing about the font size is that in IE it displays just the right size 
[even on high 
resolution flat panels like I develop on in my home office], but FireFox 
properly [go 
figure] scales the font down to what the CSS specified size is - I don't want 
to mess 
around with multiple browser CSS right now so I tried to pick a happy medium - 
considering that most users still use IE to surf the internet, I chose a font 
size that 
worked allright there [I am trying out Arial right now but it is kind of large 
on IE].

The logo is kind of tight with the top, but I have this thing about too much 
whitespace at 
the very top of the page, I will move it down a bit and see how it affects the 
overall 
appearance - if necessary I will just set the BODY top margin to something 
other than 
0.

The side panels are a bit off alignment wise, the main reasons I did this is 1) 
to draw 
the eye more from the edge [probably the opposite is happening, but no 
complaints 
about navigation from site visitors yet], the right sideboard only does that 
because of 
the Google Adspace - I put that there to draw in some extra cash [of course - 
not much 
but its cash] and because, oddly enough, 80% of the ads displayed are 
complimentary - 
I have to filter out the occasional competitor, but a lot of ads that are shown 
lead to 
sites that refer to my client as contractors or service centers; the other 
sites are for 
items that don't really affect his business. I might move the google ads from a 
sidebar 
to a horizontal banner in the content.

The wiggling back and forth between some pages was indeed do to a width issue - 
I 
had originally set the right side width at 98px, but the Google ad is 120px 
[the smallest 
size they offer for vertical ad width] and I forgot to change the column widths 
accordingly so every now and then things would bounce around as the table 
adjusted 
the columns to try and fit everything.

I am thinking of using a different bullet, but I don't know if I want to get 
too flashy with 
the website right now, I get your point though - a more "stand out" bullet 
would probably 
highlight the points a bit better.

I am making revisions right now with some of these ideas and the other members 
suggestions and will repost the link when I am ready for another honest 
critique.

TY

Charles R King

On 10 Apr 2006 at 13:40, PBC Web Design wrote:

> At 01:08 PM 4/10/2006, you wrote:
> >Its been a while but im back looking for some more third-party 
> >advice. Please take a
> >look at my clients web site [http://www.gregoriopools.com/] -
> >
> >I am trying to bring the site slowly into the future and working with
> >a limited color palette [it just has to match the clients brand new
> >logo].
> >
> >Please let me know what you think and the browser you use - I know
> >for a fact that some things are kind of 'odd' in IE sometimes, but i
> >want some honest opinions.
> 
> Looking at it in Firefox on PC and providing honest (my opinion only)
> feedback:
> 
> First thing I would do is center the design.  I have a personal pet
> peeve about left aligned sites with lots of open space on the right. 
> I have a 19" flat panel monitor and so I find this happening quite a
> bit on many web sites.  I find it harder to read having to cock my
> head or slide my peepers far left to view the site on my big monitor. 
> I feel that the web design world needs to start thinking more about
> monitor sizes and larger resolutions in general, but again that's
> personal opinion as is everything I say here.
> 
> The font is very small - not illegible but I do think I'd go bigger
> with it.
> 
> The logo is smack dab up tight against the top of the page - I think
> I'd give it a little breathing room.
> 
> I think I would left align vs centering the info on both 
> sideboards.  Or maybe left align the left side and right align the
> right side.  The centering effect going on here along w/the lists in
> the page is a bit on the "to much" side of things for my liking.
> 
> On this page: http://www.gregoriopools.com/whats_new.shtml I would
> give the text content a bit of white space on the right.  The content
> is butting up to the right sideboard.  There are more pages like this
> as well now that I'm moving around the site more.
> 
> When you go back and forth 'tween these pages:
> http://www.gregoriopools.com/spa_sales.shtml
> 
> http://www.gregoriopools.com/pool_moreinfo.shtml
> 
> http://www.gregoriopools.com/spa_moreinfo.shtml
> 
> http://www.gregoriopools.com/whygregorios.shtml
> 
> your left sideboard has a jumping effect - it gets narrower so 
> something is out of whack in the width somewhere I think.  There are
> more pages doing this I just didn't list them all.
> 
> So, those are the things I'd be working on if it were my site to do. 
> On a creative note, I think I'd also give the lists something besides
> the round bullet - something blue maybe an arrow or something
> different is all I can think of right now.  Hope that helps :)
> 
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