You should realize that 90% of the sites created in FrontPage 2003 (and almost as many created in an earlier version) are not sites that rival geocities for worst of the web. The majority are boring table based sites with too many font tags and not enough CSS but otherwise like most websites created in the late 90s on.
The main problem with FrontPage is also its strength, it is easy to use and that lets some people live their dreams of excess. Take a look at the output of every site builder I've ever seen and you'll see equally bad sites. I've seen crappy music on load, flashing animated garbage on sites that were hand coded. Granted not as many because it takes more time and effort but I've seen them just as I have on sites created in Dreamweaver. It isn't the tool is the user. Sometimes it takes real talent and hard work to create a site that is as bad as some I've seen (and yes, the particular one I'm thinking of is a FrontPage site but the "designer" has gone far beyond what FrontPage could easily do adding babelfish translations, "SEO" optimization by large paragraphs of font size 1 keyword stuffing, incomprehensible navigation, comments made by people who have looked at the site include "I clicked around and looked at 5 different pages, what IS this site about", this is despite PayPal buttons all over the place.) Many Flash only sites fall into this same category of unusable and annoying websites just like the worst examples of a FrontPage site. On the other hand I also know sites that if you would never know were created in FrontPage that have clean, elegant and valid code that use CSS for presentation. The pages are checked in a variety of browsers and work cross platform. The people who created them use FrontPage for its site management features and don't have generator or program id meta tags. I'll bet your client uses IE and only IE on Windows to view her sites. Maybe the best thing you can do is to stick with the bgsound onload. That way those of us using a better browser (FF, and even IE 7 for example) won't have to listen to it. <g> Cheryl D Wise MS MVP FrontPage http://by-expression.com Online instructor led training http://starttoweb.com Aug. 20th session Expression Web Designer and Intro CSS -----Original Message----- From: Hoenig, Robert I tried to talk them out of it but she's very adament that she wants background music. I would agree it's very annoying. It's a bridal site and she saw another bridal site that has the music so of course she had to copy them. I looked at the other site and I believe your right it was created in FP. The unfortunate thing is I don't know Flash but would like to learn. Any good sites or examples I could use to do this? I have the software just haven't taken the time to learn it. ____ � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
