On 11 Aug 98, at 17:18, Luana M. Howard wrote:
> At 02:24 PM 8/11/98 -0500, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
> >What "plead our case" are you talking about?
> Basically, we're asking for more control. I have more control over
my
> iserver account than I do of the company's server and I'm a trusted and
> valued employee. It is an inconvenience to perform a 20 min task in +/-
> 2 hours. This is because things I'm accustomed to doing myself are
> assigned to system administators. Our "case" I guess would be that it
> would be more efficient if we had some degree of administrative
> priviledges.
> Was this believed to be impossible? Isn't /home/username normal for
UNIX,
> and a user logging in as a root (although virtual) relative of his own
> directory tree?
Umm.. I have had accounts at at least 10 -20 or more other unix
servers. I have found an etc directory needless to say one with the
following in it:
sendmail.st
aliases.db
aliases
relayers.db
passwd
aliases.bak
resolv.conf
relayers2.db
relay
sendmail.cf
sendmail.cf.old
spammers.db
spammers
spwd.db
pwd.db
htmlscript.conf
protocols
htmlscript.conf-dist
Iserver gives you a virtual machine. If you want use agrep or fgrep etc.
via a cgi script then you must put it in your bin directory, which for me
at iserver is:
/usr/home/rede/bin
On my linux box it is
/bin
But when I run a cgi on iserver the path to bin is:
/bin
just as if I was on my linux box (or my own unix box). My cgi
program cannot leave my user space. And it is just as well.
> I agree, but these SA's do know what they're doing and can do what
we ask.
> Our issue is in explaining to our manager why we would like and
> sometimes need this control.
A good SA is developed over years and a better one has vision to
begin with. One thing when I started work where I am at now I told
my boss that I may play at sysadmn work but I am not one and he
should pay a pro to do what I can practice at. That helped me when I
finally did hit the wrong buttons and crash the whole system. I am
webmaster/cgi-perl programmer and I respect the knowledge/vision needed to
be a good SA. I know a lot of very knowlegeable SA's who have just been
repeating the same experience. Iserver is unique.
See what Mike Stone has to say. I was reading his message but I have to
run and don't have time to think.
In any case if you do crash the system or whatever the log files will show
it.
Peter
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Peter J. Schoenster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exercise Your Brain..Read a Book http://www.rede.com/
Free CGI Scripts and Applications
http://www.rede.com/samples/index.html
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Peter J. Schoenster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exercise Your Brain..Read a Book http://www.rede.com/
Free CGI Scripts and Applications
http://www.rede.com/samples/index.html
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