i know about the others, but the publishing part is too "hard" for most,
besides: the wysiwyg editors have no added value, since their code-output
only seem to p*ss off the non-wysiwyggers on the team ;-)

btw the golive editor is mac-only (the page-maker, script editor, css
editor, dhtml-editor site-management tool etc), the other parts aren't, is
what makes me so verrrrrrry happy, since most of our clients are pc-minded.

btw: don't know anybody on this list that actually uses golive cs, but it
provides beautiful code, if you set it up for that (two steps in the
preferences and the html-database - that is fully editable btw)

it can also incorporate non-html stuff like .asp code (to be continued when
we go online ;-)

oh, and blueworld has adapted their lassoo-tags so that they are enclosed in
<> instead of [], especially to be incorporated in the cyberstudio
html-database, meaning you can very easily make filemaker-driven sites.

oh, and cs supports webobjects, making it a good editor for
webobjects-driven sites
(example: http://www.apple.com/)

mmm, and one you'll be able to appreciate: the tags dbase is set up to the
w3c standards.

i actually get very good ratings when i put my sites through the wringer
(the garage/doctor html-checkers)

best of all: it doesn't put a metatag with "creator=golive corporate
advertising what great pages can you make with our editor" in your code
(actually it does, but switching that off is one of the two steps i
mentioned in the preferences to get clean code ;-)

cheers again

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: maandag 31 augustus 1998 18:25
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      WC:>: RE: >: wysiwyg publishing system
> 
> Koen wrote:
> > i know the word wysiwyg is positively harmful on this list, but i
> > invite you
> > to check out this new package.
> > http://www.macnn.com/press/980828golive.shtml
> > or http://www.golive.com/
> > in short: a publishing system for the www:
> > -cyberstudio (wysiwyg editor that makes maintaining sites easy) - mac
> only
> > -cyberwriter (browser based client for your clients or partners
> > or ... to do
> > maintenance or content editing) - any platform that supports ie4+ or
> nn4+
> > -cyberserver (sql dbase for up to 200 cyberwriter-users) - linux,
> solaris,
> > w98, wNT, mac OSX
> 
> Koen, despite the fact that "wysiwyg is positively harmful" ;) , when I
> first saw the description of this package the first thing I checked was
> "is
> it available on Win"? Nope. I'd really like to check out this package, but
> no Mac sitting around for me to use.
> 
> There are a few products that are PC compatible and fall in the same
> genre:
> 
> NetObjects Team Fusion:
> http://www.netobjects.com/products/html/notf.html
> 
> Vignette story server
> http://www.vignette.com/
> 
> Anyone know of others?
> 
> Jack
> 
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