I couldn't get to either site. All I got was a directory listing that said
"Parent Directory" which (in my experience) means that the home directory
for the two URLs has been created and the DNS is pointing to the right
place, but no files have actually been installed in that directory. I
checked with www.netcraft.com, and it claims that both sites are running on
Apache 1.3.1 (Unix) so the URLs are pointing to the Unix box.
On my web host's Unix box, all of the web files have to be in a
subdirectory of the account called "htdocs", and not up at the top level,
so it may be that your IPP moved the sites, but not to the right place. You
may want to have her confirm that the files are on the server (using Telnet
and running an "ls" command for each account) and that they are in the
correct directory structure for that flavor of Unix.
Is your IPP experienced with Unix? After spending almost 3 weeks getting
our Sparc set up to be a staging server, we have come to the realization
that Unix is a real pain to configure. (Keep in mind, my hubby is the one
doing the config -- and he worked at Sun for 3 years, and has been
programming on Unix systems since '85, so it's not like he's a Unix newbie.)
Re moving sites in general. I really discourage my hosts from moving live
sites around on me, and throw absolute fits if they change the DNS routing
to the new machine before I've tested everything thoroughly. I work with
experienced hosting providers -- folks who really know their stuff -- and
still they've managed to break things every time they move a site to a new
machine. If I hear about the move in advance, I ask them to let me copy the
site to the new machine (leaving the old site still running), test
everything (especially CGIs), and only *then* allow them to make the domain
change so that I know someone typing in the URL is going to the new machine
only after I've made sure everything works. And I don't allow the IPP to
delete the old site from the old server until about 2 weeks have passed,
just in case there's a total crash of the new system. You can never, ever
be too careful with a live site. (That's why we're going through the pain
of configuring our own staging server -- so we can work on a mirrored copy
of a site, not on the live beast.)
It may be that Barry is getting to a locally cached copy (if he's running
somewhere where there's a caching server, for example), but not to the real
pages, and that may be why he sees something when I don't.
--Tamra Heathershaw-Hart
(who learned about how well live sites can be broken the *hard* way, and
still groans to think about it)
At 02:06 PM 9/21/98 -0800, you wrote:
>My IPP just moved all her sites from her NT box to a Unix box. I don't
>think the domain has propagated on TLC yet, as nobody seems to be able to
>get in yet. (http://www.tenderlovingcare.cc)
>
>Barry tested out http://endlessriveradventures.com and was able to get in
>OK, but I still can't get to these pages at all.
>
>I would appreciate it if some of you would try to the Endless River
>Adventures site and tell me if you can get in or not.
>
>Any ideas why Barry might be able to access the site while I can't? (I
>don't know whether Barry was trying it from his Mac or his PC. I'm trying
>it from NS and IE on my Mac.)
>
>thanks, Suz
>
>Suzanne Stephens, Dave Stephens Design; Ashland, Oregon
>541-552-1190, 541-1192 http://www.KickassDesign.com/
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>Tender Loving Care Interactive DVD movie: http://tenderlovingcare.cc/
>Endless River Adventures: http://www.EndlessRiverAdventures.com
>
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