At 10:43 PM 10/14/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Where can you do experience on Client/Server systems, Unix, NT, 
>Oracle, Sybase and SQL?

Working for a consulting firm. We do all of the above, whether we like it
or not. Did Oracle last year, doing SQL this year, did Sybase a few years
back....

>No graduated students will be qualified... you can't have a LAN with 
>so many OSes in your home if you're a student... or at least not 
>fast enough to have experience!!!

Oh, I dunno about that, Ivan -- you should see my ex-dining room! It is
possible to have all those OSes in one's home, student or not -- but most
of us don't want to have an ex-dinging room like mine. We have one NT
server, one Sun server, one portable (PC) functioning as our intranet
server, two Win98 PC workstations, one Mac workstation. We have the $5.00
Oracle "test drive" installed somewhere, various flavors of SQL (I think
Bruce just installed mySQL, after giving up on MiniSQL), Cold Fusion,
Access, 4th Dimension, Lotus Notes, various Intranet pacakges (trial
versions), and too much other crap to count. While I admit that most
students wouldn't have the room for all this stuff, expense-wise we've
bootstrapped it, and if we'd bought more pieces second-hand it would have
been lots cheaper.  A dedicated student with an eye to the future could
start building their own stuff and after a couple of years have most of the
HW -- knowing how to use all the software is another issue entirely though. 

Equipment aside, I don't think a newly-graduated student would have
experience in all of the areas in the job listing. But keep in mind that
most job listings are really wish lists, with the people listing everything
they can possible want in a dream employee. I know I'd love to hire someone
with all of my skills and experience plus skills in a bunch of areas where
I don't have experience, and to only have to pay them about 1/2 of what I
pay me -- yeah, right, DREAM ON. So, take the complete job listing with a
grain of salt, and try to figure out what items in the list are the top
priority, and see if you match those priority (deal-breaking) criteria. 

--Tamra Heathershaw-Hart
Champion Nerd
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