On 14 Oct 98, at 15:08, Suzanne Stephens wrote:
> >What should be the average age of an expert like this one?
> >How many years of experience he/she should have???
> I'm certainly no lawyer, but I believe that in the U.S., the setting a
> mandatory minimum (or maximum) age would be considered illegally
> discriminatory.
Mumble so the age of pension is discriminatory :-)
Trying to be just a little bit more serious. Writing down you'll select
candidate on age and selecting them on age are different. It should
be discriminatory to select on sex too but why are most CEO
male???
What I mean is that you should be really senior consultant to say
you're an EXPERT of Oracle, Sybase, SQL, NT, Unix and C...
To be an expert of C require at least 3 years of hard programming
if you start from a previous experience on computers...
Very few graduated students can say they are expert even if they
have studied at least 4 years "computer science".
A boy/girl could be an expert assembly programmer at 15 and then
learn the math at the university but I really doubt a boy/girl could be
an expert programmer on too many things...
First you need the wish to be an expert programmer... you could
start very young to learn C, something about some OSes because
you like it... but who will play with data bases???
Then you need the time, be an *expert* require time because you
may have the attitude but experience require time.
If you want to make experience you need the HW and the SW...
We are talking of MS SQL, Unix, Oracle, Sybase... $$$$!!!!
When you'll be graduated you'll have to work... where you'll find a
place where you can learn so many things in few time???
Well I've learned SQL in 1 day... actually what I needed to know
about SQL... and I hope that evrything somebody will ask me about
SQL I'll be able to learn it in a day too... but this doesn't mean I'm
an expert...
I think there isn't a real need of experts in so many fields... they
don't exist or they are VERY few... just having used all those stuff
one time in your live should be enough
Knowing the complete set of Microsoft Foundation Classes require
a year I think... and if you know them you won't be an expert of
windows programmer.
One thing is wishing a candidate will know where to look for some
tools another is asking his/her *expert* knowledge of those tools.
I think the result is trying to save money on people and then
release S***** products...
The value of teams is easily forgotten hidden by the cost of teams.
Then Tamra wrote:
> Oh, I dunno about that, Ivan -- you should see my ex-dining
room! It is possible to have all those OSes in one's home, student
or not -- but most of us don't want to have an ex-dinging room like
mine. We have one NT server, one Sun server, one portable (PC)
functioning as our intranet server, two Win98 PC workstations, one
Mac workstation.
well at what age? and now can you say "I'm an expert"?
-- snip --
> versions), and too much other crap to count. While I admit that
most students wouldn't have the room for all this stuff, expense-
wise we've bootstrapped it, and if we'd bought more pieces second-
hand it would have been lots cheaper. A dedicated student with an
eye to the future could start building their own stuff and after a
couple of years have most of the HW -- knowing how to use all the
software is another issue entirely though.
Two years to buy the HW and how many year to become an
expert?
-- snip --
> have experience in all of the areas in the job listing. But keep in
mind that most job listings are really wish lists, with the people
listing everything
they can possible want in a dream employee. I know I'd love to hire
Yes!!! If you find two of those people send me the second!!!!!
Now I'll repeat my question...
what should be the average age of such an expert (MS SQL,
Sybase, Oracle, NT, Unix and C and a couple of other things I can't
remember)?
My guess is 40/45!!!
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