Greg Wilson wrote:
Well, here we all are, two weeks later, with no sign of convergence on a solution.

I'm not sure whether a 'solution' is possible. Nathan Torkington's rave is typical hype in my mind. Hyping some other system might help, but I don't think the web-sig can organize such a thing.


Concerning actual technical convergence from a development point of view, besides the Paste work that Ian Bicking lists in his mail, Zope 3 and Twisted are being integrated using WSGI. On my personal agenda is to check out Ian's formencode and see how we can use it for Zope 3; the little I read about the philosophy (especially the bit why auto-generating forms, while seemingly attractive, has problems) struck me very positively.

What kind of solution are you looking for? One can hardly expect people to drop the frameworks they've invested a lot in and all converge upon another one. You can't even expect Python programmers to actually stop creating new frameworks.

I think evolution can work, and the trend is going in the right direction -- the Zope 3/Twisted development plus the Paste and Subway developments means there's movement in the direction of integration of existing code, instead of reinventing the wheel all the time. We need to keep this up and expand it further.

Regards,

Martijn

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