On Jul 11, 2009, at 5:58 AM, David Lyon wrote:

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:02:39 -0400, Jim Fulton <j...@zope.com> wrote:
I was really just pointing out that there isn't
anything special about web developers.  Really the need relates to
application development.  That is, web application developer's needs
aren't really different from other application developers' needs.

Just for my own education..

Why is there so many problems with python hosting? What I mean
is that any linux host that can run python should be able to
do web hosting easily. Say like run zope/plone.

Is this due to difficulties in getting packages onto a web host?

What could be done in an ideal world to make it a snap to
run zope on my cheapy linux web hosting service (that already
has python)?

The primary problem is that most web applications require long-running processes and low-cost hosting providers don't let you run your own long-running processes. My impression is that not many low-cost providers support mod_python or that perhaps perhaps it's not easy to integrate with mod_python in those environments. I personally haven't tried to run Zope on low-cost hosting providers.

Lots of people are gravitating to Google App Engine, including Zope developers. Zope itself is a bit too heavy for GAE, but lots of Zope developers are building lighter applications using Zope (and non-Zope) components. Lots of other frameworks work with GAE.

Of course, there are lots of relatively low cost (~$20/mo) co-lo providers that give you a VM you can run anything on. I don't think there're any problems running Zope in those environments.

Maybe others here can add more.

Jim

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Jim Fulton
Zope Corporation


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