Thank you Tim,

are you still using your previously posted trick to have forms mostly
in the view? Any problem with that?

carlo

On 28 Ott, 15:16, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carlo,
>
> I haven't eaten the T2 candy yet either.
>
> Been there, done that.  I'd encourage you not to submit to a different
> function.  It's tempting for me because it makes for smaller functions,
> but I learned the hard way that this is not the way to go.  I started
> out with my login form that submitted to an "auth" function.  It was a
> nightmare trying to get the user where they needed to be without
> creating infinite loops.  I eventually pulled the session validation
> code out to a module while moving the authentication code into the
> "login" function (which previously only displayed the login page).  Now
> it's clean and maintainable and the chance for infinite loops is 0.
>
> -tim
>
> carlo wrote:
> > dear billf and Tim,
>
> > you look advanced about tackling this issue and I call for your
> > support.
>
> > As I do not have yet much confidence with T2 plugin I am not sure I
> > grasped what billf suggested.
> > Billf, do you mind posting an example form with your method?
>
> > My intention was always to have my forms defined entirely in the view
> > (no widgets just html or sometimes html helpers) and Tim's solution
> > looks addressing this issue (apart from some logic in the controller)
> > though I did not test it yet extensively. My procedure was to send my
> > form to a different controller where validation was accomplished by
> > calling some custom functions which use the built-in validator class.
> > Of course this breaks the auto submit paradigma that I agree should be
> > a better practice.
>
> > Your suggestions are welcome,
>
> > carlo
>
> > On 28 Ott, 07:31, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Carlo
>
> >>>> This reopened an old argue I have with web2py validation because if
> >>>> you want to benefit of the accepts() feature you must put some form
> >>>> presentation/helpers in the controller.
>
> >> With T2, two functions - say "create_widget" and "list_widgets" -
> >> could look as follows:
>
> >> def create_widget():
> >>     return dict(form=t2.create(db.widget)
>
> >> def list_widgets():
> >>     return dict(itemize=t2.itemize(db.widget)
>
> >> The form creation is still being called by the controller but it is
> >> wrapped in T2 methods.  The methods also execute the accepts() method
> >> giving you the validation and db updating which is so great bout
> >> web2py.
>
> >> I have proposed a patch to Massimo that would allow a custom_view=True/
> >> False argument to be passed to the T2 methods that would cause a dict
> >> to be made available to the view.  The dict would be keyed by
> >> fieldname and each item would contain the current form value of the
> >> fieldname and the html component that had been generated by web2py
> >> e.g. an INPUT, SELECT or TEXTAREA.  For example, if the dict were
> >> called "latest" then the view could access the value of the field
> >> called name by {{=form.latest.name.value}} or the component for a
> >> dropdown list of countries by {{=form.latest.country.component}} (this
> >> would return a SELECT complete with options and the appropriate option
> >> selected). This allows total flexibility to customize your view in the
> >> the view (except that options would be in the form of a SELECT: of
> >> course, this could be overcome by allowing 'value' to hold a simple
> >> value or a list of option values and which are selected).
>
> >> With the above patch, creating form html in the controller could be a
> >> convenient option that could be switched off if not required.
> >> Personally, I think that as web2py gains popularity it will be taken
> >> up more by graphic orientated people (because of its simplicity).  If
> >> this is the case, the automatic html generation, whilst useful in
> >> developing and testing, will be rarely used in the final application
> >> generation and the primary interface between data and view should be
> >> html-less.
>
> >> Perhaps there would eventually be 3 options - all controlled in the
> >> view - apologies if the syntax is rubbish:
> >> - take the object and output as standard web2py html (the current
> >> method but controlled by the view), e.g. {{=form(default=True))}} or
> >> {{=form_helper({{=form}})}}?
> >> - get the value of a field and plug into hand-rolled html, e.g. <INPUT
> >> name="description" value="{{=form.description}}"/>
> >> - use a helper method, e.g. {{=select_helper(={{form.country}})}}
>
> >> Sorry - got a bit off the topic there.
>
> >> On Oct 28, 1:52 am, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Oct 27, 6:24 pm, carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>> After some time spent on a Java project which kept me away from my
> >>>> preferred language, I made a quick refresh of the latest posts.
>
> >>>> Found interesting the manual about the T2 plugin but I did not
> >>>> understand what exactly the purpose of such a plugin shoul be. Someone
> >>>> could recapitulate?
>
> >>> a plugin comprise of a set of components (modules, models, views,
> >>> controllers and static files) that may be used by more than one app
> >>> and act on the global variables (request, response, db, etc.) of the
> >>> app that uses the plugin. Examples are CRUD and authentication.
>
> >>>> Reading the T2 manual I also found "It used to be common to create a
> >>>> <form>...</form> that submits the form variables to a different
> >>>> page. This is no longer considered good practice."
>
> >>>> This reopened an old argue I have with web2py validation because if
> >>>> you want to benefit of the accepts() feature you must put some form
> >>>> presentation/helpers in the controller.
>
> >>> Did you look into gluon.sqlhtml.form_factory() which is described in
> >>> the book?
>
> >>>> Is the Tim Farrell solution as in the "Customizing Forms" thread still
> >>>> the best? Or something new was added to the web2py cookbook in this
> >>>> respect?
>
> >>> I think that solves a different problem, inserting hidden fields
> >>> (_formkey and _formname) in custom forms. Am I wrong?
>
>
>
>  tfarrell.vcf
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