Companies are members if employees of the company pass the certification and if they ask to be listed.
I am thinking of certifying web2py but also debian/ubuntu, postgresql, apache, cherokee, and other programs considered to be high quality and relevant by the members. I also want to certify quality and workflow. I am not thinking of an incubator for new software. We do not need it. I am thinking of an umbrella that can make members act as a part of a larger entity not just as individuals consultants/companies, even if they will be compensated as individual consultants/companies. I am trying to alleviate the burned to convince clients to hire you by giving the tools to sell what you do better. Ideally I want to build something that works as close as possible as a real international consulting company but without a base salary, leaving members greater independence and all the revenues of their work. Massimo On Nov 17, 12:52 pm, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please take a look at OSGeo. If you have companies like Autodesk > joining in, you can't say it's not being taken seriously. Also, OSGeo > has a far broader reach as it has half a dozen very different projects > under it's umbrella and at least as much in incubation. With regard to > differentiating developers, mixed emotions there. For a freelancer, I > understand, but how do you assess (and maintain your assessment) of > companies (especially if web2py is just an element in their > operations). How do you protect web2py from copyright pollution, or > prevent having misbehaving members ? While there is only (in global > terms) a handful of people highly skilled in web2py (a very nice > community, one of the greatest - if not The greatest - asset web2py > has). However, how will this look like if one day we will have > thousands or maybe tens of thousands of people and companies working > in the web2py milieu ? Not nearly an easy topic. I somehow perceive > the association would be to a foundation what a confederacy would be > to the United Nations, but that's probably a bad comparison because of > the political conotations one might see there. I don't want to be the > devils advocate, I just want to see and understand the difference in > motivation and perception of the two terms/approaches. Most > explanations I got so far indicated more that people are not overly > informed how modern open source foundations look like and what their > goals are. I would really hate to see something like the OpenDWG > alliance (http://www.opendwg.org/) coming to life, which, while > originally a noble cause and good idea, gradually turned more and more > into something I'm not too fond of and just stick around because I > have to. Ending rant :) > > On Nov 17, 4:37 pm, "Yarko Tymciurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Two points: > > - I think Massimo's point of wanting an association is to encourage more > > people to take web2py seriously, and associate and differentiate skilled > > developers; > > - It's not just about web2py; > > > I believe that is accurate. > > Regards, > > Yarko > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Vidul Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Massimo, > > > > Splendid idea! I am in. > > > > This project will encourage more and more newcomers (I have no doubt). > > > > Vidul > > > > On Nov 14, 11:01 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actually I was thinking about something similar but also different. > > > > > I want to create an association of users, not a foundation. The > > > > purpose of the association would be: > > > > > 1) promote the use of free software in general (not just web2py) > > > > 2) select the best open software that works with web2py (cherokee, > > > > linux, postgresql, etc.) > > > > 3) certify members as experts in web2py and in those other software > > > > technologies selected by the members > > > > 4) provide a portal where members (and member companies) can host > > > > their profile and be contacted > > > > 5) help members work together to compete with large consulting > > > > companies for jobs. > > > > 6) help members with legal issues when dealing with clients > > > > 7) maintain a database of projects completed by the members and > > > > accessible to members only > > > > > I want us to compete with this: > > > > > http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/gbs/bus/html/bcs_index.html > > > > > not with Plone or other small Python projects. > > > > > Think about it. There are more than 600 people on this list, growing > > > > exponentially. We already distributed all over the world. We are all > > > > very skilled people. We are unified by the love for the same > > > > technologies. We do have a better product than the competition. We > > > > only need more organization. Why do we need an employer? In > > > > manufacturing there is a need for capital in order to buy the "means > > > > of production". Thus investors provide capital and get shares of the > > > > revenue in return. We do not need "means of production", we have > > > > laptops, we do not need an office, we do not need investments, and we > > > > do not need to share our profit. We just need to be recognized as > > > > leaders in our field and attract clients. I think we can do that. > > > > > Who is in? > > > > > There are legal issues to be resolved. The web site will be up soon > > > > for people to sign up, take a quiz, and become members. > > > > > Massimo --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
