the irony:  the editor mode doesn't work in Chrome (where it would be useful
to have an editor), but works everywhere else (Firefox, IE-6, Safari - which
shares a codebase w/ Chrome! - Opera)

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes - VCS calling interface is what I remember, and I think it is a good
> idea (if integrated well).
> For client-end editing "from the web" with some sort of reasonable undo
> that is more reliable than the browser, I suggest (ahem - hard to do, since
> I've been using Chrome the past few months)  using Firefox, with the "its
> all text" plugin - that lets you edit any form "offline" in an editor of
> your choosing (e.g. vi).
>
> Only problem w/ that - when editing w/ web2py,  you have to constantly
> change to "text" mode for "its all text" to come up / work.   Would be nice
> for those people if this default (what comes up when you edit) was
> configurable.
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yarko, maybe including is the wrong word if Massimo is referring to my
>> VCS web2py patch. I'm providing a mechanism to call whatever
>> underlying VCS you are using in the project. It's just making web2py
>> smart enough to detect different VCS files, and putting a button or
>> two on some of the admin pages to do update/commit/revert (by calling
>> the adequate VCS modules or simply executing a shell command). I've
>> already done it for subversion and bazaar, and it's just a couple of
>> minutes of work to add anybody's favourite. It's very unwieldy (like
>> any VCS) to use for edit/save/run type of development.
>>
>> I personally think the back button is something that you should not
>> rely on (for whatever purpose). With any fairly recent web2.0 site it
>> will only wreak havoc as 'back' is not really the 'back' the user
>> might think it is. I'm generally not a great fan of using web-based
>> editors for serious work, but that's probably just my VI addiction
>> speaking.
>>
>> On Nov 20, 7:13 pm, "Yarko Tymciurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:52 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Let me think about. I thought we were going to include a real version
>> > > control system eventually.
>> >
>> > We've had this discussion in the past:  it makes no sense to "include" a
>> VCS
>> > in web2py (too many people have favorites).
>> >
>> > It _can_ make sense to write a unified interface, so that you can "plug
>> in"
>> > your favorite VCS (and location of repository).
>> >
>> > Once that is in place, it would be nice to version projects - but even
>> so, I
>> > would do this on-demand ("checkin").
>> >
>> > This kind of editing "undo" is probably another layer of behavior,
>> distinct
>> > and different from what a VCS is for.   If you look (for example) at
>> > docs.google.com,  when editing a file, auto-save is in effect for some
>> time
>> > period.  If you look at your document's history, you can see a "session"
>> > might have 4 or 5 (or more) saves, and inspecting each, you can see that
>> > they grabbed something you were in the middle of.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure we want / need to get that elaborate (or do we?).
>> >
>> > Think about implementing a simple 'undo' mechanism first - something
>> beyond
>> > browser back, short of an auto-saved versioning system (which I think
>> would
>> > be too big a distraction for web2py).
>> >>
>>
>

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