Thank you Achipa, People do not complain for free.
They complain because they have an interest. In a couple of cases I have seen a correlation between me refusing to include a third party package XYZ in web2py (because the built-in equivalent is better) and a subsequent "bad press". I know who the people involved are but I will not say. I catalogued bad press in 3 categories: 1) "web2py suck" with not explanation. I usually answer by asking "why?" or do not respond at all. 2) "I reinvented the wheel", which is true except I never claimed I invented anything (at least not in this area). 3) "I advertise web2py". Yes I do. I fail to see why there is something wrong with it and how me talking about web2py is any different than other people talking about competing frameworks. I try to talk about web2py without explicitly listing defects or bugs in other systems and only emphasize why I think web2py is better. There is not much we can do about 1 but there is something we can do about 2,3. More people need to talk about web2py so that I become a minority voice and hopefully personal attacks will give space to more constructive criticism. Massimo On Dec 2, 6:13 pm, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard about the bad press, too, and I must say I don't know where > those people are coming from. I have only seen critiques from people > who have not even tried web2py or are opposed to it on a philosophical > level. Web2py is not the biggest framework (even in python) but every > framework had to start somewhere, and every framework had to have an > original author. It's like MS press telling how amateurish Linux is > all over again. I was a bit wary at the beginning, but it turned out > great. Not only am I now convinced that web2py is technically sound, > but it undoubtedly has one of the best communities around. I can > hardly wait to uncover my biggest 6+ machine project, which will > proudly wear the 'powered by web2py' sticker. Keep up the good work, > Massimo ! > > On Dec 3, 12:57 am, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think we are doing week but we should not take this growth for > > granted. > > > There are people that see web2py growth as a threat instead of an > > opportunity and, although they are a minority, they put a lot of > > effort in spreading false information online about web2py and about > > also me personally. > > > If you like web2py, help me spread the world about it. The more people > > use it the better it will become. > > Moreover some people think this is a one person project. Clearly it is > > not since so many of you have contributed a lot to web2py. > > > Massimo > > > On Dec 2, 2:30 pm, Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I made a graph of membership growth for this group, which you can view > > > here:http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/static/members.png > > > > It's an impressive trend! > > > Rails has 16000 members though, so we have a way to go. > > > > Baron --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
