Point received.  So what do you think we need to do?

Massimo

On Dec 16, 4:40 am, achipa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anytime somebody stores a string in a wrong encoding knowingly, a
> puppy dies. The database HAS to know about the encoding, or you can
> kiss most string functions goodbye. LENGTH(strcolumn) won't work, LIKE
> won't work, SUBSTR(...) won't work, ORDER BY won't work, etc, etc.
> Worst of all you WILL get random truncations bc of the declared column
> length (VARCHAR(50) in latin1 does NOT hold 50 utf8 characters). So
> let's save the puppies and do encoding correctly (I reckon half of my
> grey hair is due to encoding issues - the other half most likely due
> to IE), that will also make it easier to hunt down any potential bugs.
>
> On Dec 16, 6:15 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is not supposed to be a problem because web2py only passes utf8
> > encoded data to the database, which means that, even if the database
> > does not know it is utf8, it is just a string with regular characters.
> > The database does not need to know which encoding is used and long one
> > uses it consistently.
>
> > This is not to say that may not be a bug. The email from Lorena seem
> > to indicate that there may be a bug. I need to learn more to
> > understand what is causing this.
>
> > If you feel I am wrong about collations could you provide an example
> > that breaks the current system?
>
> > Massimo
>
> > On Dec 15, 8:22 pm, achipa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > In european languages "Ã..." is usually a sign you have utf8
> > > characters in latin 8bit fields.
>
> > > Massimo, I can see that for MySQL you do other=' ENGINE=InnoDB
> > > CHARACTER SET utf8;' but I fail to see a similar statement for MSSQL
> > > or other databases. How do you make sure they create tables in utf8 ?
>
> > > Also, what is perhaps missing is the collation. Character sets are
> > > cool, but if you want to use the DAL with 'orderby' on a non-english
> > > (>128 ascii actually) language table, you're in trouble without
> > > collations.
>
> > > On Dec 15, 8:27 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Can you be more explicit? How are you inserting the character and
> > > > getting it out?
>
> > > > Massimo
>
> > > > On Dec 15, 9:37 am, Lorena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello, I have a problem with accented characters like "à". Using
> > > > > SQLform in my mssql table shows the character "Ã". Can anyone help me?
> > > > > Thanks Lorena 1000
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