Sorry. I did not mean to be dismissive and by April I literally mean April 1st not later. I will be back in chicago in 3 days and then I am at PyCon for 3 days.
Massimo On Mar 22, 10:10 pm, Alex Popescu <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mar 22, 11:17 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This is a complex issue and I am on vacation with limited > > connectivity. Can we postpone this discussion to April? > > Ok. I'll continue with the other framework on my list and get back to > the topic in April. > > cheers, > > ./alex > -- > .w( the_mindstorm )p. > Alexandru Popescu > > > Massimo > > > On Mar 22, 4:04 pm, Alex Popescu <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > On Mar 22, 4:57 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The only relevant files > > > > > gluon/main.py (wsgibase) > > > > gluon/rewrite.py > > > > I think that gluon/html.py URL will also need some changes for the > > > case when it is used with a request parameter. > > > > > Are you planning to modify the routes_in syntax to allow REST? If so I > > > > am interested in it but let's agree on a syntax first. > > > > I must confess that I'd prefer to reuse some existing solution and not > > > try to reinvent a solution as things are not as simple as they may > > > look at first sight. > > > > I know Google AppEngine has a a basic routing mechanism in place, but > > > it is far for being complete. Another option I am aware of is Routes > > > [1] which looks better (I haven't used it extensively though and I > > > wasn't really able to find the documentation for the latest release > > > 1.10.3 [2]). > > > > If we want to go the routes.py path, what I think it might be needed > > > is: > > > > 1. add a configuration option saying if a non-native web2py routing > > > should be used > > > 2. allow definition of complex (regex-based) rewrite rules > > > (f.e.: > > > r'^/some/url/(controller)/here(.html)$' -> '/myapp/\1?format=\2' # > > > 'controller' is the controller > > > r'^/other/url/(controller)/(id).(html)$' -> '/myapp/\1/\2?format=\3' > > > # 'controller' is controller, 'id' will be available through args, > > > etc > > > ) > > > > Anyways, I don't find the above is really readable, but I don't really > > > have any other idea on how to preserve as much of the current > > > execution flow. > > > > There are some more things that will probably need some work. > > > > 1. Case insensitive URLs and CamelCase Python class naming convention > > > > Usually I'd prefer to have case insensitive URLs (it is rather stupid > > > to show serve a resource /a/b.html while returning a 404 for /A/ > > > b.html). On the other hand, Python class names are using the camel > > > case notation, so when registering the controllers the names will have > > > to be lowered (same applies to the controller part in the URL). Indeed > > > this can be added as a configuration option. > > > > 2. I am not aware of a way to not have to flatten out my project > > > structure so that conversions from url_path_fragment to controller > > > name actually works. > > > > With a decently sized webapp, you may start using different packages > > > to group the controllers together. Right now, I do think that all > > > controller names are flatten out (by removing any package/module info > > > -- this is just a guess for now as I haven't really had the time to > > > dig through that part of the code). > > > > This is not a major problem though. > > > > Looking forward to hearing your comments, > > > > ./alex > > > -- > > > .w( the_mindstorm )p. > > > Alexandru Popescu > > > > [1]http://routes.groovie.org > > > [2]http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Routes > > > > > Massimo > > > > > On Mar 21, 4:13 pm, Alex Popescu <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Yarko, Massimo, > > > > > > I do understand how web2py routing works. But I do NOT like it as it > > > > > is action based while I am looking for clean REST. > > > > > > As I've pointed out in my first email the URL parsing and 'routing' > > > > > happens in 'gluon.main.wsgibase' (at least for a mod_wsgi deployment) > > > > > and I am pretty sure I know how to make it work as I want, but my > > > > > question is if that is the only modification I need to do or are there > > > > > other places where I should look. > > > > > > Just to clarify the difference between action based URL and REST URL: > > > > > > 1. for action based URLs the HTTP Request method has no impact on > > > > > routing, i.e. a GET, POST, PUT can result in the same function > > > > > invocation (making a GET or POST request to /myapp/controller/ > > > > > dosomething will always invoke dosomething) > > > > > > 2. for a REST app, GET, POST, PUT is THE action identifier and so > > > > > there is no need of the <function_name> in the URL (basically all is > > > > > needed for REST urls is the RESOURCE name) > > > > > > Here is a very basic example: imagine a book management app that > > > > > allows you to Add a book, List existing books and modify the details > > > > > of a book. > > > > > > 1. create a new book > > > > > > REST: POST /myapp/books/ > > > > > > Action based: /myapp/books/create > > > > > (Note: you can use even a GET request to create the book) > > > > > > 2. list existing books: > > > > > > REST: GET /myapp/books/ > > > > > > Action based: /myapp/books/list > > > > > > 3. display an existing book: > > > > > > REST: GET /myapp/books/<book_identifier> > > > > > > Action based: /myapp/books/edit/<book_identifier> > > > > > > 4. update existing book: > > > > > > REST: PUT /myapp/books/<book_identifier> > > > > > > Action based: /myapp/books/update/<book_identifier> > > > > > > As you can see there are major differences between the two approaches. > > > > > I will not discuss here the pros and cons, but only point out that I > > > > > need a way to make web2py RESTy. > > > > > > Moving away from the REST vs action based URLs, a more generic way to > > > > > formulate my question would: is there a way to change the whole > > > > > routing mechanism? > > > > > My app requires various types of URLs that I don't think I will be > > > > > able to route using the current mechanisms. > > > > > > Examples: > > > > > > 1. > > > > > /api/v1.0/<rest_of_url> > > > > > /api/v2.0/<rest_of_url> > > > > > > 2. > > > > > /resource/identifier.html -> HTML representation of the resource > > > > > identified by 'identifier' > > > > > /resource/identifier.json -> JSON representation of the resource > > > > > identified by 'identifier' > > > > > /resource/identifier.xml -> XML representation of the resource > > > > > identified by 'identifier' > > > > > > ... and quite a few others so frankly speaking I am looking for a more > > > > > descriptive but explicit (non-conventional) way to perform the > > > > > routing. > > > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > > > > > ./alex > > > > > -- > > > > > .w( the_mindstorm )p. > > > > > Alexandru Popescu > > > > > > Disclaimer: We are currently starting to prototype a real app and I > > > > > have a pretty clear idea of what I need to accomplish. 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