I guess I shouldn't use 'programming'. I suppose 'development' is a
better word for putting together a project on web2py. That's what's
great about web2py. I can develop an application without being a
programmer.
But I am expecting to learn what {{pass}} means, eventually, and pick
apart the .py files behind the scenes. Learning sql has been very
helpful, although not entirely necessary.
I want to build applications quickly but I also want to drill down
into the platform to become a better user and a programmer.
I think wiki's and web-based books are a great way to delve deeper
and look forward to seeing what you come up with.
The manual is great. No troubles there.
On Apr 3, 8:26 am, TheDude <[email protected]> wrote:
> In response to cadrentes and to elaborate on the project more...
>
> The book will be made for people who don't have a lot of time on their
> hands and would like to get their hands "dirty" with Web2Py as fast as
> possible. Most of the book will contain links to resources and guides,
> including videos, recipes, plugins, and etc. It will help you migrate
> into the Web2Py community easily and understand all of the jargon used
> within Web2Py (which isn't a lot).
>
> The only thing I'd be worried about is what cadrentes said, he doesn't
> know much about programming but the web2py book assumes he does. The
> thing is, web2py book is about..well learning web2py not programming.
> There are many other excellent resources for learning python. In
> Massimo's book, it seems like he does teach a bare-bones-minimum
> python programming to get you by on what you need. So cadrentes, what
> were some of the things that you found troubling in the Web2Py Manual
> book?
>
> Overall, I think I'll be writing a lot of versions of the book online
> and keep improving on it, and then eventually publishing it once I
> feel the book has matured enough.
>
> Thanks for all of your help guys. :)
>
> On Apr 3, 9:53 am, cadrentes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm 38. I've been running Linux for a few years but I have no
> > programming experience ecxept; copy and past some VBA in Excel, a few
> > shell scripts, and a brief attempt at figuring out CakePHP. I've had
> > a copy of Massimo's book for about a month and it is great! I've
> > already put together a productivity application for my position at
> > work. But what really helps someone like me, who has about 20 minutes
> > a day to study these things, are working examples and the vimeo's he
> > put's out. I find that applying a solution helps my understanding of
> > the programming concept, which comes later.
>
> > One thing I've noticed is that the programming community assumes I
> > know much more about programming concepts than I actually do. Having
> > examples with links to elaboration would be ideal.
>
> > On Apr 1, 12:28 pm, TheDude <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > (This isn't an April Fool's Joke)
>
> > > So, I've been writing a book for Web2Py, but recently came towards a
> > > new direction...we already have a great in-depth book writeen by
> > > Massimo so I was wondering...
>
> > > Would you guys be interested in a book for web2py like 250 pages long
> > > that goes in-depth? Or, a nice little quick start guide :D here's the
> > > thing, BOTH will be able to teach you the fundamentals that you'll
> > > need to create 80%+ web applications. One will just tell you how to do
> > > things, but then link you to the documentation page available on
> > > web2py.com for more information.
>
> > > Examples:
> > > (QuickStart)
> > > In order to create a table for our database, we'll need to <b>define</
> > > b> our table.
> > > code:
> > > db.define_table('tablename',
> > > SQLField('fieldname','string', notnull=True)
> > > SQLField('fieldname2','integer', notnull=True),
> > > )
>
> > > Let's say we wanted to have a table reference the "tablename" table.
> > > db.define_table('table2',
> > > SQLField('tablename_id', db.tablename),
> > > SQLField('imafield','boolean'),
> > > )
>
> > > <explain how the reference key works briefly then provide a link to
> > > the DAL explantion page for all options>
>
> > > I think the quick-start guide will really help boost the web2py
> > > community and get people started on a project. It's similar to the
> > > Dojo, but a bit different since it'll go more in-depth than the Dojo
> > > but at the same time you don't have to learn everything. :) It will
> > > skip things like "What is MVC?" and "Why Web2Py framework" etc. I
> > > believe Massimo has already full-filled that information.
>
> > > The book will be available online (HTML) and PDF as well as a
> > > published book.
>
> > > Please let me know if your thoughts.
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