Using gunicorn (Thanks, Massimo), I ran the full web2py Welcome code:
Welcome: elapsed time: 0.0511929988861
Welcome: elapsed time: 0.0024790763855
Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00262713432312
Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00224614143372
Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00218415260315
Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00213503837585
Oddly enough, it's slightly faster! But still 37% slower than the command
line execution.
I'd really, really, **really** like to know why the shipping code is 10x
slower...
On Sunday, 16 March 2014 21:13:56 UTC-4, horridohobbyist wrote:
>
> Okay, I did the calculations test in my Linux VM using command line
> (fred0), Flask (hello0), and web2py (Welcome).
>
> fred0: elapsed time: 0.00159001350403
>
> fred0: elapsed time: 0.0015709400177
>
> fred0: elapsed time: 0.00156021118164
>
> fred0: elapsed time: 0.0015971660614
>
> fred0: elapsed time: 0.00315999984741
>
> hello0: elapsed time: 0.00271105766296
>
> hello0: elapsed time: 0.00213503837585
>
> hello0: elapsed time: 0.00195693969727
>
> hello0: elapsed time: 0.00224900245667
>
> hello0: elapsed time: 0.00205492973328
> Welcome: elapsed time: 0.0484869480133
>
> Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00296783447266
>
> Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00293898582458
>
> Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00300216674805
>
> Welcome: elapsed time: 0.00312614440918
>
> The Welcome discrepancy is just under 2x, not nearly as bad as 10x in my
> shipping code.
>
>
> On Sunday, 16 March 2014 17:52:00 UTC-4, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>
>> In order to isolate the problem one must take it in steps. This is a good
>> test but you must first perform this test with the code you proposed before:
>>
>> def test():
>> t = time.time
>> start = t()
>> x = 0.0
>> for i in range(1,5000):
>> x += (float(i+10)*(i+25)+175.0)/3.14
>> debug("elapsed time: "+str(t()-start))
>> return
>>
>> I would like to know the results about this test code first.
>>
>> The other code you are using performs an import:
>>
>> from shippackage import Package
>>
>>
>> Now that is something that is very different in web2py and flask for
>> example. In web2py the import is executed at every request (although it
>> should be cached by Python) while in flask it is executed only once. This
>> should also not cause a performance difference but it is a different test
>> than the one above.
>>
>> TLTR: we should test separately python code execution (which may be
>> affected by threading) and import statements (which may be affected by
>> web2py custom_import and/or module weird behavior).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 16 March 2014 08:47:13 UTC-5, horridohobbyist wrote:
>>>
>>> I've conducted a test with Flask.
>>>
>>> fred.py is the command line program.
>>> hello.py is the Flask program.
>>> default.py is the Welcome controller.
>>> testdata.txt is the test data.
>>> shippackage.py is a required module.
>>>
>>> fred.py:
>>> 0.024 second
>>> 0.067 second
>>>
>>> hello.py:
>>> 0.029 second
>>> 0.073 second
>>>
>>> default.py:
>>> 0.27 second
>>> 0.78 second
>>>
>>> The Flask program is slightly slower than the command line. However, the
>>> Welcome app is about 10x slower!
>>>
>>> *Web2py is much, much slower than Flask.*
>>>
>>> I conducted the test in a Parallels VM running Ubuntu Server 12.04 (1GB
>>> memory allocated). I have a 2.5GHz dual-core Mac mini with 8GB.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't quite figure out how to use gunicom.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:41:49 UTC-4, horridohobbyist wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll see what I can do. It will take time for me to learn how to use
>>>> another framework.
>>>>
>>>> As for trying a different web server, my (production) Linux server is
>>>> intimately reliant on Apache. I'd have to learn how to use another web
>>>> server, and then try it in my Linux VM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 15 March 2014 22:45:27 UTC-4, Anthony wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you able to replicate the exact task in another web framework,
>>>>> such as Flask (with the same server setup)?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:34:56 PM UTC-4, horridohobbyist wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, putting back all my apps hasn't widened the discrepancy. So I
>>>>>> don't know why my previous web2py installation was so slow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the Welcome app with the calculations test shows a 2x
>>>>>> discrepancy, the original app that initiated this thread now shows a 13x
>>>>>> discrepancy instead of 100x. That's certainly an improvement, but it's
>>>>>> still too slow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The size of the discrepancy depends on the code that is executed.
>>>>>> Clearly, what I'm doing in the original app (performing permutations) is
>>>>>> more demanding than mere arithmetical operations. Hence, 13x vs 2x.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I anxiously await any resolution to this performance issue, whether
>>>>>> it be in WSGI or in web2py. I'll check in on this thread periodically...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, 15 March 2014 16:19:12 UTC-4, horridohobbyist wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interestingly, now that I've got a fresh install of web2py with only
>>>>>>> the Welcome app, my Welcome vs command line test shows a consistent 2x
>>>>>>> discrepancy, just as you had observed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My next step is to gradually add back all the other apps I had in
>>>>>>> web2py (I had 8 of them!) and see whether the discrepancy grows with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> number of apps. That's the theory I'm working on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, yes, I know, according to the Book, I shouldn't have so many
>>>>>>> apps installed in web2py. This apparently affects performance. But the
>>>>>>> truth is, most of those apps are hardly ever executed, so their
>>>>>>> existence
>>>>>>> merely represents a static overhead in web2py. In my mind, this
>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>> widen the discrepancy, but you never know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 15 March 2014 11:19:06 UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @mcm: you got me worried. Your test function was clocking a hell
>>>>>>>> lower than the original script. But then I found out why; one order of
>>>>>>>> magnitude less (5000 vs 50000). Once that was corrected, you got the
>>>>>>>> exact
>>>>>>>> same clock times as "my app" (i.e. function directly in the
>>>>>>>> controller). I
>>>>>>>> also stripped out the logging part making the app just return the
>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>> and no visible changes to the timings happened.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @hh: glad at least we got some grounds to hold on.
>>>>>>>> @mariano: compiled or not, it doesn't seem to "change" the mean. a
>>>>>>>> compiled app has just lower variance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @all: jlundell definitively hit something. Times are much more
>>>>>>>> lower when threads are 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW: if I change "originalscript.py" to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
>>>>>>>> import time
>>>>>>>> import threading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> def test():
>>>>>>>> start = time.time()
>>>>>>>> x = 0.0
>>>>>>>> for i in range(1,50000):
>>>>>>>> x += (float(i+10)*(i+25)+175.0)/3.14
>>>>>>>> res = str(time.time()-start)
>>>>>>>> print "elapsed time: "+ res + '\n'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if __name__ == '__main__':
>>>>>>>> t = threading.Thread(target=test)
>>>>>>>> t.start()
>>>>>>>> t.join()
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm getting really close timings to "wsgi environment, 1 thread
>>>>>>>> only" tests, i.e.
>>>>>>>> 0.23 min, 0.26 max, ~0.24 mean
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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