Documentation is important not only to find info but also to catch
newcomers eyes.

I hate to navigate on the online book and loose the index.
i have to SCROOLLLLLL to the top countless times.So easy to fix right ?
The documentation is very good but not very easy to deal with.

I think web2py needs a good ui designer from the online site to the admin
app.

The underground  from the DAL to the scheduler is another story.

Regards



2015-02-09 16:22 GMT+00:00 Richard Vézina <[email protected]>:

> So, documentation should be improve!!
>
> Alone dev practices
> Team dev pratices
>
> Examples
>
> What should go where
>
> Richard
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Carlos Cesar Caballero Díaz <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Can you point to an example of a query in the book that you think
>> should instead have been shown in a model?
>>
>>
>> All of them, or at least mention that queries should go in controllers,
>> even a simple query, will represent a problem, if we need to change it and
>> is used many times, new users, that read the image blog and simple wiki
>> examples, should explicitly known that in web2py, the recommended way is
>> putting the queries in models (or modules), all this in my opinion of
>> course.
>>
>>  Of course, if you are working with designers who don't know and are not
>> interested in learning Python, it makes sense to keep as much as possible
>> in pure HTML. But that is not the only context within which web2py is used.
>> If you don't want to use the HTML helpers, you don't have to, but that
>> doesn't mean they should not appear in any book examples.
>>
>>
>>      We are moving away a bit from the main point, imagine that I made an
>> application and my designer is learning how web2py views work and how
>> helpers are used (which is exactly what is happening to me now), my
>> designer does not have to look at the controllers, that is the goal of
>> MVC, if I'm going to make changes in views, I do not have to know what
>> is happening in the controllers. In the example that i mentioned, how I
>> ask to a designer that modify a view that says:
>>
>> {{extend 'layout.html'}}
>> {{=form}}
>>
>> Web designers normally know html and css, and if there is a way to easily
>> separate views and controllers, then web2py is going to be easily adopted
>> in teams with specialized members. But if I read in the main doc examples
>> with view related code in controllers, then I not adopt the framework.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I started web2py also started with web development. But now, with the
>> little experience I have, if I started from scratch using python, and read
>> the book of web2py, I would go for another framework (Just after the
>> Overview chapter), and would be a shame, because the documentation does
>> seem to web2py one thing that it's not
>>
>>
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