Thanks!  I'm really eager try web2py (and Python).  I can give it a
shot on Ubuntu 9.04 this weekend (if I meet my current project's
aggressive deadline).


On Jun 21, 11:08 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am uploading a fix to this problem for authentication now. It will
> be in trunk in a couple of minutes, please give it a try.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Jun 21, 9:39 am, Faye <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 11:02 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "officially" we say we only support 2.5 because if people use 2.6 only
> > > syntax they app will not work on 2.5. "technically" web2py runs on 2.6
> > > with only one known issue: The cgi module that parses form variables
> > > behaves differently in 2.5 and 2.6. If you do a POST and you also have
> > > variables defined in the URL they behave in different ways. You have
> > > to be careful about this in your own code. To my knowledge the only
> > > part of web2py code that is affected is redirection after login. I was
> > > planning to change the code tomorrow in trunk so that is behaves the
> > > same in 2.5 and 2.6.
>
> > Thanks!  I appreciate the quick answers from you and JohnMC.
>
> > I'm looking forward to trying out web2py once the Python 2.6 issues
> > are addressed.  I'd be new to Python, so it'll take at least a couple
> > hours before I become proficient enough to start debugging
> > compatibility issues. ;)
>
> > > > 2.  Are web2py security fixes/updates timely and backwards
> > > > compatible?  We can't upgrade to major new (incompatible) versions
> > > > just to get security fixes.
>
> > > We do not distinguish between security fix releases and major releases
> > > because we NEVER broke  and NEVER will break backward compatibility.
> > > That is why we "official" support 2.5 and not 2.6. You should always
> > > upgrade to the latest version of web2py. If we involuntarily break
> > > something we treat it as a bug. Let us know and we fix it immediately.
>
> > This is great and will be an important factor in making the decision
> > to switch from Rails to web2py.
>
> > > > 3.  What is web2py's release & support policy?  How long is each major
> > > > version of web2py supported with secuirty & bug fixes before being
> > > > retired?  An official policy like Ubuntu would help ease concerns on
> > > > the enterprise because it makes planning ahead easy.
>
> > > We try to have biweekly releases. 1.xx.0, we have bug fix releases
> > > 1.xx.yy when needed.
>
> > This is great, especially in keeping with maintaining backward
> > compatibility.
>
> > I hope web2py makes it into the Debian/Ubuntu repository before the
> > next Ubuntu LTS is released.  That way, we can get security updates
> > automatically (provided the package maintainer isn't asleep).
>
> > > > 4.  What is web2py's recommended plugin/library to use Paypal IPN?
> > > > This needs to be stable--not bet--since it deals with monetary
> > > > transactions.
>
> > > I do not know. I have never used paypal with web2py. I strongly
> > > recommend using google checkout instead and this library:
>
> > >    http://web2py.appspot.com/plugin_checkout/default/checkout
>
> > > It is very solid. It was used to run the PyCon 2009 conference
> > > registration. We did not miss one transaction (800 payments). It
> > > includes level 2 notifications. i.e. google informs your app about all
> > > stages of a payment process including cancellations and refunds. It is
> > > very secure because all communications between google and your app are
> > > encrypted, authenticated, initiated by google, google re-tries if your
> > > app does not respond.
>
> > Sounds like Google Checkout works the same way as Paypal IPN!  We're
> > going to look into it and probably support both.
>
> > > > FWIW, one important reason looking for alternatives to Ruby On Rails
> > > > is security.  We want to easily fix underlying security issues with
> > > > the language and the framework.  But we don't see a way to get
> > > > automatic & fast security updates on Ruby On Rails without backwards
> > > > compatibility concerns.
>
> > > One again. We promise our users not to break backward compatibility
> > > this is a policy.
> > > We never had any security related bug (as far as I can remember).
>
> > Even better than I had hoped!  Looking forward to the Python 2.6
> > fixes.
>
> > Thanks again for the reply.  I'm pretty sure web2py will gain many
> > users and teachers based on what I've seen so far.
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