Damn it, there is surely something else wrong also... Even with the removal
I seems to have difficulty with other fields not included in the custom
form which are removed with readable and writable False...

I start to be clue less about the root cause of this issue... This form has
worked properly for year now and it seems now completly broken...

Richard

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Richard Vézina <ml.richard.vez...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hello Anthony,
>
> Last suggestion seems the way to go... I do understand and I realise by
> trying to hack IS_NOT_EMPTY() that it makes no sens to refactoring it in
> anyway to make it support bool null since it never going to allow null
> value to be input in the DB. Though it certainly shouldn't prevent a form
> to submit properly when used with a bool type field. I may have use it by
> mistake with bool field... But I think, base on this post which is not mine
> in the first place, that I am not alone thinking that it usage in
> conjonction of a bool type field will prevent the form to allow null bool
> type field input (which is wrong thought since html checkbox can't return
> null value)...
>
> So, you idea if apply, is a really good way to fix the situation...
>
>
> *How I come here:*
> I have hunted so much the reason for a bug that I had with a custom form
> which only appears recently which I am still not sure why... Stange enough
> even if the form wasn't submit and the system was throwing ticket, computed
> _thumbnail_ files from compute upload fields related to an main upload
> field of user profile picture were deleted. The form was returning error,
> but the field wasn't include in the form so error can't be seen on form
> submission. I guess what was really happen was that the insert process was
> falling kind of too late and the _before_update callback was already
> triggered... False positive ticket related to the actual issue :
> https://github.com/web2py/pydal/issues/330
>
> So thumbnails get delete and then the insert fails...
>
> For now I think that as a workaround I can just remove the IS_NOT_EMPTY()
> from field definition that was causing the issue.
>
> Thanks for your help Anthony
>
> Richard
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Anthony <abasta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 3:01:48 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote:
>>>
>>> For instance how someone can acheive the same than NullBooleanField of
>>> Django :
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.9/ref/models/fields/#django.db.models.NullBooleanField
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.djangoproject.com%2Fen%2F1.9%2Fref%2Fmodels%2Ffields%2F%23django.db.models.NullBooleanField&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFC6L_ivJ7kGqBBMOORpIo7UZJIcQ>
>>>
>>
>> In web2py, a regular boolean field allows NULLs, so I don't think we need
>> a special field type. In Django, the NullBooleanField is intended to be
>> used with the NullBooleanSelect widget, which actually includes three
>> options (with "uknown" being equivalent to a NULL). I suppose in web2py,
>> you could achieve this with a standard select widget (with a None option),
>> and then use an IS_IN_SET or IS_NOT_EMPTY validator.
>>
>>
>>> One part of the problem with IS_NOT_EMPTY() is that it seems to be
>>> intent to work only with string field type, from the book :
>>>
>>
>> It does work with other types of values, but there isn't much point to it
>> when working with boolean form fields, as they cannot be empty by
>> definition (though I suppose the distinction could be made when using the
>> .validate_and_insert method).
>>
>>
>>> Or we can just fix IS_NOT_EMPTY() so it works with boolean type field so
>>> that it returns false when the checkbox is leave blank as it should...
>>>
>>
>> There's nothing to fix with IS_NOT_EMPTY() -- it doesn't know what type
>> of field produces the value it is passed, so it cannot behave differently
>> depending on the type of field. We could instead change the behavior of
>> SQLFORM so it automatically converts empty checkboxes to False values,
>> which would then pass validation with IS_NOT_EMPTY.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
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