Its all good. Just checking. Thanks for the help Niphlod.

On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 5:11:17 PM UTC-4, Ron Chatterjee wrote:
>
> What I want is allowing user to put limited string but they can't submit 
> the form with an empty field. 
>
> requires = IS_EMPTY_OR([IS_LENGTH(8), IS_NOT_EMPTY()] )
>
> That don't work. Obviously not because its conflicting. Right? In one hand 
> I am saying empty or insert value (8) and then saying can't be empty. Do we 
> have any other validators that I can try which takes those two arguments?
>
> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 4:06:03 PM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>
>> to my knowledge, the general rule for validators is that if you have 
>> multiple requirements, you should pass a list.
>> That being said, the are "special" validator, like IS_EMPTY_OR, that take 
>> a validator as an argument.
>>
>> Goes without saying (it quite translates well), that 
>> IS_EMPTY_OR(IS_LENGTH(8)) EITHER accepts nothing or a string shorter than 8 
>> chars.
>> Now, the "deal". How would you consider a field in a form that is not 
>> filled ? None or '' ?
>>
>> IS_NOT_EMPTY() prevents an empty input.
>>
>> it's not clear what you want, but I guess something got cleared with my 
>> previous comments.
>> Also, validators ONLY apply when you use them: forms, 
>> validate_and_insert(), validate_and_update(), etc. Using validators only is 
>> perfectly fine if you let the app validate each and every input.
>> length=123 enforces the underlying column to be of that length, but if 
>> you want meaningful errors, you need to use validators anyways.  
>>
>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 5:54:29 PM UTC+2, Ron Chatterjee wrote:
>>>
>>> In other words, if I do this: 
>>>
>>> IS_EMPTY_OR(IS_LENGTH(8))
>>>
>>> It prevents longer length string but the empty field is inserted as 
>>> None. I want to prevent both.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 10:54:08 AM UTC-4, Ron Chatterjee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Two question, if you don't mind.
>>>>
>>>> (1) requires = IS_NOT_EMPTY(IS_LENGTH(64)) Or requires = 
>>>> IS_EMPTY_OR(IS_LENGTH(64)) Doesn't work. In other words, if I want to 
>>>> limit 
>>>> the string field entry but also want requires not empty, how to go about 
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> (2) for my sql, do I still need length = 64 (or 255 etc)? Its redundant 
>>>> when I define IS_LENGTH(64) or do I need both?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> requires=IS_LENGTH(64) will limit insertion upon validation. the 
>>>>> "length" attribute gets translated, wherever possibile, to 
>>>>> backend-specific 
>>>>> syntaxes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 4:21:22 AM UTC+2, [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How we limit string length in DAL? It seems length = 64 doesn't work. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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