So after more investigation we are seeing that our load balanced server 
with processes runnin on all three machines are causing a lot of deadlocks 
in MSSQL. Have you seen that before?

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 2:40:35 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>
> yep. your worker setup clearly can't stably be connected to your backend.
>
> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:41:38 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack wrote:
>>
>> so after some digging what i'm seeing is the sw.insert(...) is not 
>> committing and the mybackedstatus is None, this happens 5 times and then 
>> the worker appears and almost instantly disappers.  There are no errors.  i 
>> tried manually doing a db.executesql but i'm having trouble getting 
>> self.w_stats converted to something i can insert via sql.
>>
>> another things i'm noticing is my "distribution" in w_stats is None...
>>
>> Any ideas as to why this is happening?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:21:26 PM UTC-4, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>
>>> doing that now, what i'm seeing is some problems here:
>>>
>>>             # record heartbeat
>>>            mybackedstatus = db(sw.worker_name == self
>>> .worker_name).select().first()
>>>            if not mybackedstatus:
>>>                sw.insert(status=ACTIVE, worker_name=self.worker_name,
>>>                          first_heartbeat=now, last_heartbeat=now,
>>>                          group_names=self.group_names,
>>>                          worker_stats=self.w_stats)
>>>                self.w_stats.status = ACTIVE
>>>                self.w_stats.sleep = self.heartbeat
>>>                mybackedstatus = ACTIVE
>>>
>>> mybackedstatus is consistently coming back as "None" i'm guessing there 
>>> is an error somewhere in that try block and the db commit is being rolled 
>>> back
>>>
>>> i'm using MSSQL and nginx... currently upgrading web2py to see it 
>>> continues
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 10:44:28 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>
>>>> turn on workers debugging level and grep for errors.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 4:38:31 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we have this scenario happening:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21searchin/web2py/task_id%7csort:relevance/web2py/AYH5IzCIEMo/hY6aNplbGX8J
>>>>>
>>>>> our workers seems to be restarting quickly and we're trying to figure 
>>>>> out why
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 3:55:55 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> small recap.......a single worker is tasked with assigning tasks (the 
>>>>>> one with is_ticker=True) and then that task is picked up only by the 
>>>>>> assigned worker (you can see it on the 
>>>>>> scheduler_task.assigned_worker_name 
>>>>>> column of the task). 
>>>>>> There's no way the same task (i.e. a scheduler_task "row") is 
>>>>>> executed while it is RUNNING (i.e. processed by some worker).
>>>>>> The process running the task is stored also in 
>>>>>> scheduler_run.worker_name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <tl;dr> you shouldn't EVER have scheduler_run records with the same 
>>>>>> task_id and 12 different worker_name all in the RUNNING status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a single task to be processed by ALL 12 workers at the same 
>>>>>> time... is quite impossible, if everything is running smoothly. And 
>>>>>> frankly 
>>>>>> I can't fathom any scenario in which it is possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:25:41 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only see the task_id in the scheduler_run table, it seems to be 
>>>>>>> added as many times as it can while the run is going... a short run 
>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>> add just 2 of the workers and stop adding them once the initial run is 
>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 11:15:52 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> task assignment is quite "beefy" (sadly, or fortunately in your 
>>>>>>>> case, it favours consistence vs speed) : I don't see any reason why a 
>>>>>>>> single task gets picked up by ALL of the 12 workers at the same time 
>>>>>>>> if the 
>>>>>>>> backend isn't lying (i.e. slaves not replicating master data),.... if 
>>>>>>>> your 
>>>>>>>> mssql is "single", there shouldn't absolutely be those kind of 
>>>>>>>> problems...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you sure all are crunching the same exact task (i.e. same task 
>>>>>>>> id and uuid) ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 2:47:11 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm using nginx and MSSQL for the db
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:11:11 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> nothing in particular. what backend are you using ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 8:35:17 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         task = scheduler.queue_task(tab_run, 
>>>>>>>>>>> pvars=dict(tab_file_name=tab_file_name, 
>>>>>>>>>>> the_form_file=the_form_file), 
>>>>>>>>>>> timeout=60 * 60 * 24, sync_output=2, immediate=False, 
>>>>>>>>>>> group_name=scheduler_group_name)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> anything look amiss here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 2:14:38 PM UTC-4, Dave S wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 9:38:09 AM UTC-7, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, i am having a situation where my scheduled jobs are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being picked up by multiple workers.  My last task was picked up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by all 12 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> workers and is crushing the machines.  This is a load balanced 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 machine and 4 workers on each machine.  has anyone experienced 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does your queue_task() code look like?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /dps
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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