Thanks a lot, but I'd like free IDE, without cost.
Il giorno venerdì 26 gennaio 2018 13:32:14 UTC+1, Jim S ha scritto: > > Great post Mirek! > > I can confirm that paid PyCharm does work better with web2py than the > Community version. What I like about PyCharm is that in addition to a > Python IDE, you also get a good editor for HTML, javascript, CSS and a nice > database editor if you're using the paid version. > > If not using the paid version or using some other IDE that isn't > web2py-aware, see this section of the book: > > > http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/14/other-recipes#Using-general-purpose-IDEs-with-web2py > > -Jim > > On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 5:08:47 PM UTC-6, Mirek Zvolský wrote: >> >> If you use a simple editor only, it is similar as the work with web2py >> integrated environment. You can just create and edit python files. >> Of course the suitable editor must be special for Python writting: It >> must at least convert the Tab into 4 spaces. And work with utf-8. >> >> If you want more, then use some Python IDE. >> What means more? Intellisense, Find strings through all projects folders >> and files, Find usages of defined fuction or class (in all files), Go to >> function or class definitions through click on their call/usage, ... >> You have about 30 different Python IDE's to choose your best. I have no >> good knowledge about all of them. I just have worked short time with >> Eclipse and now about 3 years with PyCharm. >> From my opinion when I compare Eclipse and PyCharm, then PyCharm is much >> much better. I speak about stability and speed. I cannot compare >> properties, because I still use just basics from PyCharm. Example: I still >> debug with the command line "from pdb import set_trace; set_trace()" >> instead to use the Python integrated debugger. >> However I believe PyCharm solution is excellent in such areas too. At >> least I hear some experienced developers to say so. >> >> PyCharm has the free ("community") edition. And has a payed edition. I >> use the free edition. >> Web2py is special Python software - model+controller+view run in same >> scope, which was earlier prepared by Web2py internals. It makes things a >> little easier for you because you have some useful things already imported >> (request, response, session, html helpers, names from model). This is crazy >> for the Python purists because they say: this is completly bad; this is not >> Python, when you have inside the file some names from outside which are not >> imported. I think, for the developer itself it is not so much bad. Because >> we have here the limited number of well known and often used names and the >> developer know from where these names come. >> >> However it is serious problem for the IDE. If you have nice pure Python >> code, where the names are from the current file or they are imported, then >> for the IDE is easy to find name references in other files. >> Here I am not sure if following is true (could somebody confirm it?), but >> I think: Payed PyCharm version has improved support for Web2py to help find >> the references, but free version hasn't such support. That means you cannot >> work with Web2py excellent in the free version. Instead you still work very >> poor, not much better as in the basics editors. Yes, a little better. >> Clicking or rightclicking the name can find the reference in same file. But >> to search the whole project, you cannot do this. You are however able to >> search the name as string through all files of the project. Which is fast >> too, but not so fast as Ctrl+click or RightClick+FindUsages. >> >> I think you will make no mistake when you learn to work with PyCharm. >> Regardless the possibilities can be (for Web2py) limited with regard to the >> previous. >> >> I don't know about Windows IDE's (Visual Studio) and probably they can be >> good for you if you work with other programming languages in same IDE too >> (if you already know such IDE). >> However PyCharm belongs to the family of JetBrains company IDE's. So you >> can use same environment in other programming languages too. However not >> everything from JetBrains is for free. >> >> And of course there is other way: A hard way for the beginning but during >> 6 months I think you will be happy. Install double boot Windows+Linux (even >> better, if you know Linux has not some fatal problem with your hardware, >> then remove Windows and install Linux only). Then use >> Python+VirtualEnv+PyCharm. >> VirtualEnv is not absolutely neccessary. However you should understand, >> that more and more parts of Linux system are written in Python. >> Example: You will use Debian on your notebook (which I can recommend (but >> of course there is a lot of good possibilities): Debian Stable for highest >> stability or Debian Testing for newer software versions (which is probably >> good for the developers machine). In Debian (and I think all other Linux >> distributions) Python2 and Python3 are already installed (because part of >> system and lot of software use them) and packaging system has lot of >> python2-xxx or python3-xxx packages which are installed together with some >> additional (later installed) software. >> And this is the problem: Distributions contains some versions of python >> and of python-packages. However with system updates the versions can be >> upgraded ! >> So you have possibility: You can develop your software with system >> versions of Python and its components, and fix the behaviour when the >> system versions will change. This is possible but not the best solution. >> Better is install and activate virtualenv for the project folder. Then >> you will work with fixed versions and you will upgrade versions when YOU >> will want. >> >> With Python3.4+ you have no need to install virtualenv. Just call: >> python3 -m venv venvdirectory/ >> Then you can switch the paths with: . venvdirectory/bin/activate >> and you have the proper python+pip version and you can install what you >> want with: pip install .... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dne středa 24. ledna 2018 22:28:05 UTC+1 Andrea Fae' napsal(a): >>> >>> Web2py integrated ide environment is not bad, but with limited >>> debugging, no intellisense and so on. >>> I'd like to know what is a completely free IDE for using with web2py. >>> Visual Studio Community? Visual Code Editor? In which way? How can I >>> integrate web2py with these IDE? Is it possible? >>> Can you suggest the best free IDE for web2py, with HTML, CSS, Javascript >>> and, obviously Python 2? >>> Thank you >>> >> -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
