Thanks Jim - I appreciate it.

Yes - I keep forgetting that for some reason Python has redefined a lot of 
terms. Dictionaries confused me until I realized that they were pretty much the 
same as keyed arrays in PHP and other languages. Not sure why so much 
relabelling but it certainly makes the learning curve a little steeper.

I'm trying to get py4web running for comparison as that seems to be the natural 
follow on to to web2py. Have you any experience with that?

> On Apr 23, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Jim S <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jon
> 
> I'd really encourage you to not give up on this.  I think your assessment is 
> correct; there have been a lot changes to the code since that doc was 
> originally written and it might be hard to navigate.  I went through it back 
> in 2011, I read it from front to back before even trying to code with it.
> 
> I'd had experience with other Python web frameworks, most notably, 
> TurboGears.  Web2py was a breath of fresh air.  So well documented, so well 
> thought out.
> 
> However, at that time, I'd been coding in Python for about 6 years already.  
> I think some of the bumps you're running into might be due to being newer to 
> Python; decorators for example, are a python concept.
> 
> If you're looking for a python web framework to get started with, I think 
> web2py is the most approachable.  I've also worked with Flask a bit and feel 
> that web2py gives you a lot more 'out of the box' whereas Flask requires you 
> to make decisions on which extensions to use.  Django is a great framework, 
> but it just never clicked with me
> 
> I'm happy to help you in any way I can.  You've given so much to the IBM i 
> community.  It's my way of saying thank you.
> 
> Let me know if you'd like to get on a call or video conference sometime.  I'm 
> pretty flexible with my schedule.
> 
> -Jim
> 
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:52:25 AM UTC-5, Jon Paris wrote:
> Responses in-line Jim - but before I get to that I really want to thank you 
> for your assistance and patience.  I now have to give some serious thought to 
> whether following this document is a worthwhile exercise as it seems to be so 
> far off the mark as far as the current version is concerned. 
> 
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 6:55:35 PM UTC-4, Jim S wrote:
> That is your default.py, correct?
> 
> Correct
>  
> Which function are you trying to protect with authorization?  I'm guessing 
> it's the index or show.
> 
> I'm just trying to follow the documentation - more in a moment
> 
> First off, I'd get rid of the user and download functions you added.  They 
> are already in place as they should be (the ones at the bottom are what you 
> want).
> 
> Wow - obviously another case where the documentation has been made obsolete 
> by changes in the scaffold code.  I didn't notice that. The scaffold includes 
> so much and nothing in the docs gives any hint as to whether it is needed and 
> "just leave it alone" or what you should do. I get the feeling that this 
> tutorial was very useful for an earlier version of the tool but has not been 
> updated as changes were made. I now know to look at every singe function I'm 
> told to add to see if a version is already in place. 
> 
> The problem now is it is not longer clear which code causes these things to 
> be actioned. I now know that all that was needed was the 
> @auth.requires_login()  
>   
> If I'm correct in my guess about protecting index or show, then you need to 
> add a decorator to them.
> 
> I'd add
> 
> @auth.requires_login() 
> 
> on the line above:
> 
> def show():
> 
> I did that and removed the dups and it now works as it should.  Now that I 
> know this I went back to the document and I now see why I missed it. The 
> wording is "We can now decorate the functions that we want to restrict, for 
> example:" - note the "for example".  Since I wasn't interested in 
> "decorating" (because to me based on other tools I have used it means to 
> pretty up and add text labels, colors,  etc.). I foolishly assumed that all 
> the other lines I had been told to add were what would invoke the 
> authentication.
> 
> Anyway - thanks again.  Maybe I'll try one more section before I give up on 
> this thing.
> 
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