I don't and I that's why I (re)move these to a hidden folder on system 
level :-) What I need is to give customers the option to add new users by 
themselves. For that I've written a small controller under the control of 
2FA and so on.

Regards
Clemens


On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 7:40:19 PM UTC+2 Jim S wrote:

> I'm just curious
>
> Why do you need access to the admin/appadmin apps in a production 
> environment?
>
> I've never used them there.  I use in development, but never production
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:54:02 AM UTC-5 Clemens wrote:
>
>> Removing the admin app as well as the appadmin controllers should kill 
>> all options of administration. Move these to two to a folder away from 
>> web2py. And then you can still call https://.../admin/site or 
>> https://.../appadmin?
>>
>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 6:44:31 PM UTC+2 Ramos wrote:
>>
>>> yes i tried it on the admin app and it just does not work.
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Em sex., 1 de set. de 2023 às 16:53, Jim S <[email protected]> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> So, are you trying to protect the 'admin' application with 2fa?
>>>>
>>>> If so, can you add the 2fa code to the admin app?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried this before
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:24:29 AM UTC-5 Ramos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> this admin
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mysite.com/admin
>>>>>
>>>>> Em sex., 1 de set. de 2023 às 16:08, Jim S <[email protected]> 
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What does 'administrator password' mean to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure what you're referring to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-5 Ramos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Jim 
>>>>>>> this line of code 
>>>>>>> *auth.settings.auth_two_factor_enabled = True*
>>>>>>> *does not protect the administrator password. Only created users.*
>>>>>>> *That is my question, how to force administrator to use 2fa ?*
>>>>>>> *regards*
>>>>>>> *António*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em sex., 1 de set. de 2023 às 15:00, Jim S <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the code I wrote that only enforced 2fa for users outside 
>>>>>>>> our local networks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is some commented out code there that additionally allowed me 
>>>>>>>> to specify users in a group so only that group was force to 2fa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> def _two_factor_required(auth_user):
>>>>>>>>     """
>>>>>>>>     check whether we need to enforce MFA on this login
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    We enforce MFA only on logins external to our network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Returns
>>>>>>>>     -------
>>>>>>>>     bool - enforce MFA
>>>>>>>>         - True means this login requires MFA
>>>>>>>>         - False means we will not enforce MFA for this login
>>>>>>>>     """
>>>>>>>>     import ipaddress
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     return False  #  temp use to disable mfa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     if len(request.args) > 0 and request.args[0] == "login":
>>>>>>>>         if auth_user.mfa_override and datetime.datetime.now() <= 
>>>>>>>> auth_user.mfa_override:
>>>>>>>>             #  no mfa required if the user override is set   - we 
>>>>>>>> added a field in auth_user to allow us to override if a user was 
>>>>>>>> having 
>>>>>>>> trouble or lost their phone or something
>>>>>>>>             return False
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         qlf_networks = [
>>>>>>>>             "9.9.9.9/22",
>>>>>>>>             "9.9.9.0/24",
>>>>>>>>             "9.9.9.101/24",
>>>>>>>>         ]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ip_list = []
>>>>>>>>         for range in qlf_networks:
>>>>>>>>             ip_list.extend(ipaddress.IPv4Network(unicode(range)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         if ipaddress.IPv4Address(unicode(request.client)) in 
>>>>>>>> ip_list:
>>>>>>>>             #  if the client address is in the local address list, 
>>>>>>>> then do NOT require MFA so set to False
>>>>>>>>             return_value = False
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         #  build the MFA Required group members
>>>>>>>>         # if return_value:
>>>>>>>>         #     print(datetime.datetime.now())
>>>>>>>>         #     ag = db(db.auth_group.role == "MFA Required 
>>>>>>>> (web2py)").select().first()
>>>>>>>>         #     if not ag:
>>>>>>>>         #         ag = db.auth_group.insert("MFA Required (web2py)")
>>>>>>>>         #     for ou in db(
>>>>>>>>         #         (db.auth_user.active == True)
>>>>>>>>         #         | (
>>>>>>>>         #             (db.auth_user.mfa_override == None)
>>>>>>>>         #             & (db.auth_user.mfa_override <= 
>>>>>>>> datetime.datetime.now())
>>>>>>>>         #         )
>>>>>>>>         #     ).select():
>>>>>>>>         #         db.auth_membership.update_or_insert(user_id=ou.id, 
>>>>>>>> group_id=ag)
>>>>>>>>         #
>>>>>>>>         #     #  clear out any members that are currently exempt 
>>>>>>>> from MFA
>>>>>>>>         #     if ag:
>>>>>>>>         #         for exempt_user in db(
>>>>>>>>         #             (db.auth_user.mfa_override >= 
>>>>>>>> datetime.datetime.now())
>>>>>>>>         #             & (db.auth_user.active == True)
>>>>>>>>         #         ).select():
>>>>>>>>         #             db(
>>>>>>>>         #                 (db.auth_membership.group_id == ag.id)
>>>>>>>>         #                 & (db.auth_membership.user_id == 
>>>>>>>> exempt_user.id)
>>>>>>>>         #             ).delete()
>>>>>>>>         #     db.commit()
>>>>>>>>         #
>>>>>>>>         #     print(datetime.datetime.now())
>>>>>>>>         #
>>>>>>>>         #     #  set to False to force web2py to check the 
>>>>>>>> two_factor_authentication  group
>>>>>>>>         #     return_value = False
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That code is in db.py
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> auth.settings.auth_two_factor_enabled = lambda user: 
>>>>>>>> _two_factor_required(user)
>>>>>>>> auth.messages.two_factor_comment = "QLF MFA - you have been sent a 
>>>>>>>> code"
>>>>>>>> auth.settings.two_factor_methods = [
>>>>>>>>     lambda user, auth_two_factor: _send_sms(user, auth_two_factor)
>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My _send_sms code built and sms and sent it via Twilio or 
>>>>>>>> RingCentral
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wrote this code, but then we ended up not implementing.  The 
>>>>>>>> web2py code is going away for us.  All the same concepts work in 
>>>>>>>> py4web 
>>>>>>>> (nudge wink wink)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:24:53 AM UTC-5 Ramos wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone can help me ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em qua., 30 de ago. de 2023 às 10:14, António Ramos <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in other words, how do i protect the administrator password? it 
>>>>>>>>>> does not have a username , just a password. This is scary :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em ter., 29 de ago. de 2023 às 19:44, António Ramos <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But that is for everyone, i just want to start with users with 
>>>>>>>>>>> admin powers 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clemens <[email protected]> escreveu em ter., 
>>>>>>>>>>> 29/08/2023 às 18:25 :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Try enabling 2FA via the following setting, since this is for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all users:
>>>>>>>>>>>> *auth.settings.auth_two_factor_enabled = True*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clemens
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 6:09:26 PM UTC+2 Ramos wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i just activated the two step auth with this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> auth.settings.two_factor_authentication_group = "auth2step"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but now how do i include the administrator user  ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> António
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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