Yarko, you are misreading this.

we are cool. I am in the organizing committee as you are. I do not
like the process but I defend it.

No negative comment about Django was made. I actually thanked the
Django People who, in fact, gave positive reviews to web2py.

The point is not "have web2py talked about". This year we had talks at
PyWorks, FISL and SuperComputing. Two of them are bigger conferences
than PyCon.

It just feels odd that the community that should embrace us the most
is the one that one that appears to be the most reluctant to recognize
us.

I am reporting the facts to the users because they have the right to
know.

I have more important things to do and I do not wish to continue
discussion on this thread.

Massimo



On Nov 4, 5:22 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <[email protected]>
wrote:
> just to own up - of the voting on the web2py design talk, there were several
> rounds, and the votes were really positive (perhaps I was one of only one or
> two who voted NO for the design talk).
>
> It boils down to a process of what is there room for, and what will benefit
> the python community most...   that is, it is about picking from a pool of
> very positively reviewed talks, and
>
> I would really drop all the talk about django , voters, and focus insatead
> on the bigger issue - when "cool things" are done w/ web2py which the python
> community is interested in, and asking questions about, then THAT
> application / solution / whatever talk should gain acceptance.  AFTER that
> kind of event, I would expect that a talk about "why is this easier / better
> / etc/"  w/ web2py (e.g. a design talk) _might_ be accepted by the
> community...
>
> As it is, wanting to have web2py talked about (without the equivalent case
> study of a major thing like the Lawrence Times)  seems - to the python
> community - strange (I think).
>
> There are other interesting talks that are rejected even more readily
> because their impact is thought to be "too new" or of "not enough wide
> impact".   I do not think web2oy is singled out at all.
>
> The opinions I expressed are all my own, and do not in any reflect the
> program committe, etc.
> Hope this helps give some insight.
>
> - Yarko
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Follow up...
>
> > The web2py tutorial has also been rejected (it was rejected last year
> > too).
>
> > There will be be 3 Django tutorials, 1 Pinax tutorial, 2 SQLAlchemy
> > tutorials, and other 15 tutorials on various topics.
>
> > Last year the open space workedst  all right. I will consider that. This
> > year we may have a bigger crowd.
>
> > Massimo
>
>
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