On Dec 8, 2:27 pm, Thadeus Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:
> Agreed, ideally there would be a warm database server ready and
> waiting, or at least a cold server that just needs to have the data
> uploaded.
>
> However at this point in time, we have no resources to dedicate to a
> backup machine (stupid I know.) I am just wanting to cover all my
> basis, and if something does happen, be able to get the system
> "running (even if slow)" asap.

A couple of comments:   this kind of redundancy is appropriately
achieved outside of the infulence of web2py: that is, db replication
from the db server end, or (lower level) redundant RAID, etc.

>
> Thinking about running the system on sqlite while setting a proper
> prostres database up, would not be desired, since then exporting from
> sqlite to postgres would be a pita.

Setting up postgres server is really pretty easy - even a minimal,
cheap windows pc (!  and why, why, oh why would you even bother
running windows! ;-)) will run a postgres server (I think I have one
on my netbook, actually, but that's ubuntu).

I think this is preferable / easier in the bigger scheme of things,
than thinking about cvs / sqlite (blech! spit!  arrrr.... hehehe...)

:-)
>
> As far as database redundancy and keeping backups on that end I am ok.
> I was curious if the web2py export_to_csv solution should be
> considered as on option. At this point, it is looking to not be a
> "backup" option, but more of a "migration" option.
>
> -Thadeus
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Yarko Tymciurak
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8, 1:39 pm, Thadeus Burgess <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I am thinking that if the database on 1 goes down, a sqlite can be set
> >> up fairly quickly if csv is available, while allowing time to get
> >> another 1 database up and running.
>
> > Don't forget that a native db backup creates a file - it can be on any
> > machine (e.g. copy it to another machine and start up).
>
> > While you _could_ setup sqlite as db on some backup machine, why not
> > then setup the SAME db for a fallback?  (sqlite has all sorts of
> > limits and behaviors that may not be consistent with "full size" dbs,
> > so you may have trouble).
>
> > That said, a final backup to _whatever_ db from a csv seems like a
> > fine last line of defense (I am only saying there are other, easily
> > available and better recovery lines of defense available - set those
> > up ahead of the "last one" :-)).
>
> > - Yarko
>
> >> That is assuming that there are no warm/cold standby servers.
>
> >> -Thadeus
>
> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Yarko Tymciurak
>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > sv data backup:  provides portable data backup, easily
> >> > accessible and manipulatab
>
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