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C. On Mar 29, 10:21 am, Yarko Tymciurak <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mar 29, 8:57 am, Yarko Tymciurak <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Careful - > > > HTML5 is behind schedule, and expected to reach standard stage in 2022 > > (?!)... > > > Hoewever, the new canvas element is supported already > > ... that is, supported by many browsers already; if we are going to > add any new, bleeding edge elements, a couple of things: > > * their definition / implimentation (behavior) in browsers may > change; > * anything that web2py supports will need to gracefully "fall > back" (at least to the app writer) when something isn't supported > > ...or we can make selective, incremental support of aspects of HTML5 > optional; > > WRT to skinning / css, what are your thoughts? Did you want to try > DOM scripting? ... not really sure how / why html5 needs to affect > skinning (yet). > > (just thinking out loud), > - Yarko > > > (so that flash / > > silverlight, etc. isn't needed) --- and IE-9 might even do will with > > this (the preview is out now - it seems pretty fast). > > > I woulnd't worry about too much more than what everyone else is > > expecting in HTML-5: the things browsers broadly support now, and are > > useful (i.e. the canvas element, and more solid svg support, among > > them). > > > - Yarko > > > On Mar 29, 7:38 am, Christopher Steel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Great!, > > > > I am going to do a little research and then put together some > > > options / samples. Two other items I am going to look into (which are > > > also suggested on the ez.css page) are html5 semantics and WAI ARIA > > > landmark roles. Roles would require a code tweak or flag as some > > > (most?) validation sites do not support it yet, html5 I need to look > > > into a bit more. html 5 is semantic and I am wondering if this could > > > conflict with our current naming conventions, validation and so > > > forth. > > > > Anyway it is a great opportunity to check all this stuff out and we > > > could always we could offer some "unsupported" / "off label" options > > > that give people more choice while maintaining our compatibility > > > commitments first adopters in the main. For our organization WAI-ARIA > > > landmarks is really important. > > > > Cheers, > > > > C. > > > > On 28 mar, 13:39, Yarko Tymciurak <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > A few points I would make (as I write this, I am aware this probably > > > > should be moved to the development list): > > > > > - ez.css is no more than a layout / framing convention; > > > > - staying compatible is easy (and it provides simple layout > > > > control); > > > > - it uses a useful convention of css class nameing, namely: <pkg>- > > > > <class>, e.g.: "ez-wr" - > > > > - we should stick with that, ie. something like "w2p" for all > > > > web2py named css classes and id selectors; > > > > - note: the major difference between > > > > - class selectors (.something) and > > > > - id selectors (#something) is id selectors can link to a > > > > part of a page, and javascript uses id selectors; > > > > > I'm not sure specifically what Massimo meant by "ez.css and jquery.ui > > > > naming conventions"; we should get specific about this. > > > > > ez has the concept of > > > > - wrappers, (ez-wr, ez-mr) > > > > - style containers (i.e. layout containers) > > > > - content containers (i.e. ez-box) > > > > - sizing elements; > > > > > and more... > > > > > jquery has at least these conventions: > > > > -http://jqueryui.com/docs/Theming/API > > > > -http://wiki.jqueryui.com/Position > > > > > Note that ThemeRoller is a way to apply to PARTS of a user layout, > > > > e.g.: > > > > > - font settings; > > > > - corner radius; > > > > - header; > > > > - toolbar; > > > > - content; > > > > - clicables; > > > > - highlight; > > > > - errors; > > > > - modal; > > > > - drop shadoes; > > > > > By combining ez (positioning) and jquery-ui (and staying consistent w/ > > > > themeroller), we should be able to build-up a web2py-unique packaging, > > > > with potentially useful extensions (e.g. for form layout and theming). > > > > > This seems, to me, to be a very promising direction. > > > > > - Yarko > > > > Noteab > > > > > On Mar 27, 7:44 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I like the idea. It would be ideal if you could do it using ez.css and > > > > > jquery.ui naming conventions. > > > > > > Massimo > > > > > > On 27 Mar, 15:23, Christopher Steel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The Zengarden css code is not "open source" but we can easily create > > > > > > our own. I am just finishing up a css based theme for a client that > > > > > > uses div's and flow with a two columns (basically the same > > > > > > appearance > > > > > > as the current web2py default layout). I would be more than happy to > > > > > > create on using the current web2py names, images and so forth and > > > > > > can > > > > > > license it as we like. > > > > > > > We could include it as a documented option and give it a name like > > > > > > base-2c-flow.css or base-tableless.css > > > > > > Let me know soon cause I am moving on to non css stuff in the next > > > > > > few > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Christopher Steel. > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 5:33 am, Benigno <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > @mdmcginn: I do think that having a proven flexible div setup that > > > > > > > allows for so many different options, is precisely what you need > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the original layout. What Zengarden does, is prove the > > > > > > > flexibility of > > > > > > > CSS but that flexibility is nothing if your div structure is not > > > > > > > correctly thought out and matured. > > > > > > > > On the minus side, however, and this is my personal opinion, I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > that most Zengarden designs, are mostly oriented towards blogging, > > > > > > > news/magazine, or marketing presentations, and not so much about > > > > > > > enterprise applications. (This might be that I have missed the > > > > > > > correct > > > > > > > layouts). However, I have the same opinion about the other layout > > > > > > > plugin. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Benigno. > > > > > > > On Mar 24, 10:23 am, mdmcginn <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote:> CSS is great, much better than table-based web design, and > > > > > > > > csszengarden deserves a lot of credit for demonstrating that. > > > > > > > > But it > > > > > > > > is just a proof of concept. As you noted, their basic HTML is > > > > > > > > full of > > > > > > > > empty divs into which designers can insert fancy images, so > > > > > > > > it's not a > > > > > > > > good base for templates. > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 9:14 am, Wes James <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:27 PM, mdipierro > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just for fun: > > > > > > > > > > > http://web2py.com/zengarden > > > > > > > > > > > then click on the [zengarden] link under the menu, under > > > > > > > > > > the "index" > > > > > > > > > > link. You can change the skin per user, per session. > > > > > > > > > > This is a bare bone welcome app with the layout > > > > > > > > > > It says to click on link at top right - on firefox/mac os > > > > > > > > > x.6.2 it > > > > > > > > > shows up on top-left. > > > > > > > > > > -wes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. 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