On 17 mayo, 17:32, Mark Breedveld <m.breedv...@solcon.nl> wrote:
> I've been through the material and it's quite straight forward.
> So we could keep the current packaging system like it's now.
>
> But we both now that it ain't suitable for debian packaging system.
> So I have a tiny idea.
>
> We start working with a major and a tiny release.
> The major release will not be up to date, but a proven version.
> And released every quarter or half a year. Just like ubuntu.
>
> This we make it easier for companies to offer long term support.
> Which is an important issue for customers.
>
> It also shows that web2py has reached the status of an mature
> webserver/framework.
>
> My excuse for the long waiting for my answer, but I starting my own
> business.
> While I'm also busy with school.
>
> But I've made request on Hogeschool Rotterdam to support web2py.
> And they where very positieve, so I keep you all posted.
>
> regards Mark Breedveld,
>
> On Apr 20, 7:06 pm, Mark Breedveld <m.breedv...@solcon.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you very much,
> > This are some of the answers I was looking for.
>
> > I'll dive into it, tomorrow.
> > But this gives me an idea about how the release cicle is done.
> > And how we could implement thedebianpackages in it.
>
> > Which has been discussed in an 
> > earlier.http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_frm/thread/51b731d9abb52...
> > This might give an idea why we want to package web2py.
>
> > And the reason I started this post was because I had the same
> > questions as you.
> > The frequent releases of Massimo etc.
> > More than enough to discuss,
> > but first I'll study the answer you give me and come up with an idea
> > == more questions :p.
>
> > regards
>
> > Mark Breedveld,



I've found this thread of discussion today. I'am an official Debian
developer and was thinking also of packaging web2py for Debian, but
I've begun to use web2py only a few weeks ago and I prefer to know
more the framework before trying to package it.
Anyway, if I've understood it correctly, I've read in this thread that
you're planning to add the debianization to the web2py sources, so the
package can be created easily. That's a bad practice from the Debian
point of view, and package maintainers encourage upstream not to do
it, unless upstream is the package maintainer. In fact, it's very
usual that, if upstream sources contain a debian directory, the
maintainer removes it before adding the definitive one.

The oficial maintainer must know and modify the debianization all the
time, so he (or they) are who must write it, not upstream. It's the
maintainer responsability having it in a good shape inside the debian
repository.

On the other hand, I've also read that you plan to recheck the package
every quarter of a year. That's not a good practice either, the
package should be checked when it's needed. I.e: everytime a new
upstream version is released, on when a bug in the packaging is
discovered.

If you want to do the Debian package for web2py I recommend you fill a
ITP (Intend to Package) bug in bugs.debian.org, so you'll be the
official maintainer of it, and do all the packaging in Debian. Doing
it in that way, web2py will be in the Debian archive and,
automatically, in all its derivatives, as Ubuntu.

If you need any help, I can lend you a hand, or even do the
maintaining of web2py together, but for that, I need more time to know
the insides of web2py before feeling I can do a good work with it.

Regards.
José L.

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