On Jun 22, 10:30 am, Doug Warren <[email protected]> wrote: > I think part of the problem is a lack of dog food. I started looking > last night at the state of web2py testing, and was amazed that the > gluon/tests directory is not included in any of the 'source' > distributions. In fact it's not in the Google code build either.
This is odd. I am pretty sure it was there. I am hg adding and pushing again. I have to say I have had problems with google code. My students pushed code (in other project) and I could not retrieve what they pushed. What I would hg clone was even different than what I'd see browsing the code online. > After downloading the bazaar trunk from ~mdipierro/web2py/devel I see > that it only exists there. Further there are only 38 tests in that > repository. I had originally intended to shadow the changes in Google > code by seeing what changed, writing the test that would fail, syncing > to the change list and verifying that it now passed, but getting even > to that point will be a huge amount of work. If nothing else because > now there is a requirement to only use launchpad. Is there a reason > why the tests aren't including in any other distribution? > > I'd be curious to see what the Lines of Code vs Lines of Test graph > would look like for > Web2pyhttp://www.cuberick.com/2010/06/lines-of-code-vs-lines-of-test.html > and how we can improve it. > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Thadeus Burgess <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I agree with most of these points. > > >http://packages.python.org/web2py_utils/test_runner.html > > > That is about as far as you will get with testing on web2py. You need > > very hacky code just to run your tests properly. Web2py was just not > > designed with testing in mind, and due to backwards compatibility > > never can be. > > > One of the things I dislike about web2py are the conventions! I am > > tired of software assuming what I want it to do (grrr microsoft > > paperclip), half the time I have to hack around things the framework > > "assumes" I want to get it to do what I really want. > > > -- > > Thadeus > > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Giuseppe Luca Scrofani > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am a totally noob so I am not the best person to tell this, however, > >> I think web2py is the best python software I ever tried, after python > >> itself. I tried only django in this field before, my experience in > >> limited, but I just can't imagine something better for the development > >> of web application. Maybe Ruby On Rails, in the scene from a long > >> time, can be more "mature". But I think with some exposition web2py > >> can grow to be the industry standard, now it seems to be in a niche > >> waiting to explode. You Bihn made some good service to address > >> weakness and propose improvements, so thanks. When I've had enough > >> experience and skill to contribute to this project Im surely will and > >> if this gaps arent yet solved (very improbable) I will try to solve > >> the most easy :D > > >> For the point 3 I can say conventions dont'have to be this rigid, I > >> create always css, img, swf ecc. folders on static. I think it is > >> automatic to do this, but if dont want to do this for any reason I > >> dont like to be forced. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe without all present > >> conventions learning will be much difficult and web2py would be more > >> like cherrypy where you can do all what you want how you want (if you > >> know your stuff) with a higher learning curve. > > >> What I think is another area, in my humble opinion, of improvement is > >> the manual, it is very good, but more example, a clearer API and a > >> better search function can make my searches for information more easy. > > >> Please excuse me for my bad english.
