Hi Massimo,

On 28 nov, 19:03, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Learning Scorm.... what a crappy protocol:
>

I agree, it's crappy and awful, butI don't think it's so bad as you
say:


> 1) it is a method for zipping lectures and metadata
> 2) lectures are in html and are vulnerable to XSS

this is not a problem of the protocol but of the tool used to do the
lecture.
html or javascript are vulnerable to XSS themselves too.

> 3) mixes content and presentation

again, it depends on the tool used to generate the scorm package

> 4) can contain quizzes (defined in the JS). students can find the
> right answers by looking in the page source code.


right :), anyway there are many more exercices that can be used, again
it depends on the tool used to generate them.

> 5) completely unreadable because of many XML files with incomplete
> specs.
>
> I cannot believe everybody uses this.
>


Believe it. It's the international standard used in education. Every
LMS has to implement it, because any serious (or considered serious by
the educative authorities) content generation tool for education must
be able to export to scorm. So, a teacher can use eXe to prepare the
lessons and, then, include the scorm package in a Moodle at the
school, or the national LMS.

About eXe, I must say that it's a killer application because of an
only point: teachers can use it easily. Its interface is really
teacher-intuitive. On the other hand, its development is dead since
more than two years ago, and any intent from other people to resume it
has been impossible because of the current owners of the application.
I know of several projects around the world patching it by their own.
Internally eXe it's totally crap, because its developer froze the
libraries they use and included them all in the binaries/sources, so
the versions of xul, nevow, TinyMCE, etc. that eXe uses are two years
old and almost impossible to update without rewriting a good part of
eXe.
Anyway, it has very good points, it's free,  its client-server
architecture design is a good and powerful design, and the way it
interacts with the teacher is a total sucess in many countries around
the world, and believe me: I've been working developing code and
applications for teachers for the last 8 years and it's not easy to
find an application that most teachers can use without problem.

My 2 cents
José L.




> Massimo
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> On Nov 28, 10:46 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I am taking a second look at SCORM, the de-facto standard for creating
> > e-learning content, supported by all major LMSes. Looks like there is
> > only one engine that can parse SCORM files and it is commercial/closed
> > source.
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> > This cannot be good for education.
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> > Massimo
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> > On Nov 28, 5:03 am, blye <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > I was researching LMS type stuff around the net and found eXe, a very
> > > attractive open source tool for creating Lessons ( standards
> > > compliant ) and generating the result as a sequence of html pages and
> > > resources. exeLearning.org    or  core-ed.net.
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> > > I am experimenting to see if the eXe pages can be 'wrapped' in web2py
> > > ie.
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> > > Idea
> > > web2py app maintains a table of categories and a table of lesson
> > > titles in these categories. This is fairly standard.
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> > >  the user can then select and hopefully start a Lesson
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> > > 1. is it possible to shell out to the lesson index.html from web2py?
> > > ( run the set of html files stored in local folder in separate browser
> > > window).
> > > (( the lesson is obviously Not a web2py app itself.))
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> > > Where and how should the Lesson resources be stored and referenced
> > > from web2py field? (All eXe generated lessons begin with index.html)
> > > My trials with redirect and static have not worked. :-(
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> > > 2. It would also need to upload a zip file and unzip it into folder.
> > > ( still researching this  :-/
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> > > I suppose the ultimate idea is for the user to be able to upload
> > > lessons created with eXe for other users to download and use.
> > > Any ideas welcome.
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> > > strength to the LMS mill!

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