Yes and Spring solved many of the original JEE AKA J2EE problems to the point the JEE people adopted the Spring way. I worked with many of the original EJB containers, some of it was not fun. Python and web2py makes getting work done so much easier.
Ron On Nov 30, 1:50 pm, Michele Comitini <[email protected]> wrote: > When I need to have fun I go reading this on springpython home: > > "Spring Python is an offshoot of the Java-based Spring Framework and > Spring Security, targeted for Python. Spring provides many useful > features, and I wanted those same features available when working with > Python." > > I always thought the other way, I need Spring in Java for doing the > most basic things that can be done in Python :-D > > mic > > 2010/11/29 mdipierro <[email protected]>: > > > For me Enterprise means: > > - easy to use (low startup costs) > > - always backward compatible (worth the investment) > > - enterprise = business + non-profit; enterprise != large bloated > > bussiness > > > I do not disagree with your definition: "pragmatic, agile and > > extensible web framework for fast development". > > > On Nov 29, 2:58 am, pierreth <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Nov 29, 1:39 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > please let us know if things work or do not work. We have not tested > >> > web2py with jython much, > > >> > Massimo > > >> Well, I won't dig that much in Jython with web2py for the moment. In a > >> longer term interest, I would like to be able to use web2py in a Java > >> infrastructure with Hibernate. I think it might be a really nice tool > >> for prototyping in the enterprise world. > > >> Also I would like to use web2py with sqlalchemy with Python Spring. I > >> see the mix of the three as a potential solution for the enterprise > >> world too. > > >> In fact, I don't understand that you labeled web2py as an "Enterprise > >> Web Framework". Without wanting to offend you, I see web2py as a > >> "pragmatic, agile and extensible web framework for fast development". > >> I think web2py as a too tight coupling for enterprise development. DAL > >> in not a real ORM and it does not make it easy to apply domain driven > >> design. Add the fact that the web2py book is mixing presentation with > >> the control, I think web2py is favoring pragmatism over abstraction. > >> It is not bad by itself but it conflicts with my vision of the > >> enterprise way. > > >> I would appreciate your comments. > > >> Pierre > >
