+1 On Friday, January 7, 2011 3:18:55 AM UTC-5, VP wrote:
> Jacobian made a few bogus statements. One is about imports. > > In fact, you don't need to import anything to use Python globals or > primitive data structures. Why? because those primitives structures > are so useful and often used that they are automatically imported for > use. > > This is conceptually similar about the Web2py primitives. These > primitives are so often used that there are automatically imported. > > Another bogus statement is about web2py is harder to learn. Now. > Jacob is a very smart guy with proven records. But he doesn't have a > record of being a teacher, one that Massimo has. I think it is this > experience that Massimo understands better what it is easy or > difficult for beginners to learn. Personally, I have two Django books > in my bookshelf, but I eventually gave up Django to look for other > options that did waste my time. A little more objective, if people > pay attention to the tweets, there are lots of beginners who love > web2py and find it so easy to learn. > > > > The most outrageous thing that comes out of Jacob and some other folks > is this mentality that "Python experts will look down to you if you > use web2py" or "sure, beginners love web2py because they are > beginners". These guys seem to have no clue about the increasingly > pervasive nature of computing in society today. There are many very > smart and intelligent "beginners" who know little about web frameworks > or even Python. They simply look for tools to develop their ideas. > In fact, you see many scientists and researchers who write programs > and develop webapps (in particular). My thinking is in the short > future many more (smart) people who will be writing programs, > naturally. They will look for tools that in the easiest manner > facilitate the creation of what they want to do. > > It is very unfortunately that these young and smart guys are trapped > in their narrow world. So much group-think. So narrow-minded. > > My advice again is simply to ignore them. As I said in a previous > post, as long as you mention Flask, Django in the same breath as > web2py, it's going to be a negative experience. > > > > > > > >
