I see the need for this. I need to think bout how to do it in a
backward compatible way and in a way that works on GAE without joins.
Please open a ticket about it.

On Sep 20, 5:03 pm, António Ramos <[email protected]> wrote:
> *  The Web2py security methods put Notes ACL to shame?*
> Can you explain why you think this way?
>
> how do i solve this problem in web2py?
>
> In a small organization (+- 100 users) it can be dificult to manage ACLs
> without being able to add group to group membership.
>
> consider my company
>
> we have this groups in the maintenance department
>
> MMC (20 users)
> ME ( 15 users)
> MI ( 10 users)
>
> MD (maintenance department)
> (all users above)
>
> so this group is composed of MMC,ME, MI and we dont repeat adding all users
> to MD, we just add group MMC,ME,MI
>
> When we delete a person from ME, MD group automaticaly reflects the change.
>
> In Lotus notes is very easy.
> *in web2py its impossible!*
>
> Also in web2py you have to decorate every function to allow certain users or
> groups. In Lotus Notes if i say in my app acl that user A cannot access it i
> dont even care that inside the app everything is free for everyone. User A
> is blocked ! I dont have to repeat myself.
>
> 2011/9/20 Cliff <[email protected]>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > >>> web2py ... does not reach yet the Lotus Notes  power of views, ACLs,
> > formulas,calendar,etc
>
> > Not sure about that.  It takes about as long to put a simple view
> > together in Web2py as in Notes.  It would take a bit longer to do a
> > view with child records the first time around, but after that I don't
> > see a problem.
>
> > The Web2py security methods put Notes ACL to shame.  True, it's not
> > baked in like Notes ACL but once you get the hang of it, setting up
> > authorizations for your app is pretty easy.
>
> > I'll agree on calendaring with one disclaimer: the Notes calendar
> > worked very well in the Notes client.  Through a browser, not so
> > much.  But my familiarity stopped with Notes v6, so maybe it's better
> > on the web now.
>
> > I'll also agree that LotusScript is blecherous.
>
> > The debugger, on the other hand, was very nice.
>
> > On Sep 20, 5:00 am, António Ramos <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>
> > > i´m a lotus notes Developer,
> > > i have moved a lot of code to python and a few simple apps to web2py.
> > > I think xpages is way more dificult to jquery ui mobile with web2py.So i
> > > decided to not learn xpages and go with web2py+jqueryui mobile.
> > > Also i like a lot web2py although it does not reach yet the Lotus Notes
> > > power of views, ACLs, formulas,calendar,etc
> > > In the other side, i hate lotusscript. If Lotus Notes moved from
> > lotusscript
> > > to python ....
>
> > > Please see my workflow engine in Lotus Notes.
> > > I´d like to move it to web2py but i´m still a rookie in web2py so i will
> > > need more time.
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMNwqAtiFOw
>
> > > Best regards
> > > António
>
> > > 2011/9/20 David Marko <[email protected]>
>
> > > > Are there any Lotus Notes developers using web2py? I'v been doing Lotus
> > > > Notes development for more than 15 years and I also did two projects
> > with
> > > > web2py recently. I really like web2py it makes me very productive,
> > comparing
> > > > to Java Server Faces based xPages in Lotus Notes, which are really,
> > really
> > > > slow to develop (to be honest I like java more, but web2py is
> > definitely
> > > > more productive in many areas). In Lotus Notes we have many smaller or
> > > > bigger applications installed at our customers solving general problems
> > like
> > > > CRM, document workflow, invoice approval process, projects, task
> > management
> > > > etc. I appreciate the web2py concept of one server running many
> > > > applications, SSO using CAS, its very similar to Lotus Notes approach,
> > which
> > > > is great.
>
> > > > And now the point ... I'm thinking about creating some code
> > infrastracture
> > > > similar to LN, some general workflow engine and so and I thought about
> > to
> > > > join forces with others maybe LN developers that have similar
> > requirements
> > > > as we have. Is there anyone interested in such thing? We discuss here
> > or
> > > > privately ...

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