hey anthony, you know this system great. your advice is awesome.
i am kind of a dumb-bu@# when it comes to the format thingy. i don't get that. anyway, setting the default value did the trick nicely. thank you again. i am nearing the end of my development, at least phase 1 for a while. i really am impressed with web2py and haven't enjoyed programming since delphi went south. lucas

