On Feb 19, 2007, at 11:30 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:


On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Dan Wood wrote:

Running blot, it appears that editable divs in webkit treat option- space as a regular space, not as a non-breaking space. I can't believe this could have been neglected, so maybe it's not a bug?

Personally, I'd like to be able to insert non-breaking spaces, since it would mirror other text fields.

Any thoughts?  Should I file a bug?

I think the reason this is done is because we use a sequence of alternating normal spaces and non-breaking spaces, plus some special WebKit-specific CSS properties, to achieve desired whitespace behavior. We want multiple spaces to show up in the middle of a line, but collapse away at the end, as in normal text editors.

In WebKit-based clients, like Safari or Mail, we can get the display to be just right, using a special CSS property. In other clients, we want decent fallback. The closest you can get is alternating space / nbsp, which preserves the multiple spaces but will break in the middle if needed.

An alternate design for this that still allowed entering true non- breaking spaces would be welcome - we could not figure out how last time we thought about this.


Perhaps I'm not understanding this correctly, but the alternating of non-breaking spaces with spaces should not prevent the deliberate insertion of a non-breaking space. If a user is actually hodling down the option key while typing space, the editor should insert a non- breaking space. While this could create rendering problems, that would just be the result of a user intentionally putting in too many non-breaking space. The user would be aware of what caused the problem. It's often necessary to deliberate use non-breaking spaces. The Cocoa text system allows this. For example, if I'm trying to prevent a runt at the end of paragraph I might want to type <option>- <space> before the final word of a paragraph.

The alternating space non-break-space prevents the usual HTML/XML treatment of whitespace by collapsing multiple consecutive spaces into one space. Again, nothing should prevent WebKit from allowing users to intentionally insert a non-break-space.

Best wishes,
Rob
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