On Aug 15, 2008, at 12:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, we are well aware of WebKit Teams proposals:
http://www.nabble.com/Apple's-Proposal-for-CSS-Transformations-p13615345.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Mar/0313.html
http://webkit.org/specs/CSSVisualEffects/CSSTransitions.html
http://webkit.org/specs/CSSVisualEffects/CSSTransforms.html
http://webkit.org/specs/CSSVisualEffects/CSSAnimation.html
And animation examples: http://www.the-art-of-web.com/css/css-animation/
We also want to make sure that WebKit API's would remain consistent
between platforms. And it would be nice to see all those features in
the public trunk, and not only in desktop/iPhone WebKit.
It is the best interest of all parties, that all manufacturers
devices would have the same advanced API set, when there are large
number of devices with the same API's deployed in the world, then
the web devolopers would be more interested of using the API's, as
there is no point for devolopers to make custom web pages for each
manufacturers device.
We are not trying to make competing API, but rather cooperate and
maybe extend the functionality of the possibly missing features that
we had in mind, and we are more than happy to talk about the ideas
on technical side and make needed modifications.
A great place to start would be an outline of what you think is
missing from Apple's (now standards-track) proposals. We are eager to
have more input.
Currently there might be some overlapping with our work and Apples
work especially on 2.5D/3D transformations as we haven't seen that
code in WebKit nightly build yet, or haven't been able to find it ;-)
We are folding more and more of the changes into the public tree.
Recently Animations and transition events went in, and basic
Transitions and Transforms were already present. 3D transforms are not
yet available in the public WebKit tree.
We have studied iPhone Safari a bit (what a surprise :-D), but maybe
I have missed something, does it already support for web developers
to receive touch and accelerometer events, like our implementation
of JS API's provide?
It has touch and accelerometer events. The documentation should be on
ADC. I don't know if they are the same as yours, particularly since
you have not given much detail about your plans.
Regards,
Maciej
regards, Jonni
From: ext Maciej Stachowiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 August, 2008 21:19
To: Rainisto Jonni (Nokia-D/Tampere)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Request for comments
On Aug 13, 2008, at 6:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I've been following the webkit-dev list for a while now, and I
though that it might be good time to introduce myself and the
project that we have been working on with a small team.
First some general high level introduction jargon for managers or
such ;)...
Motivation:
Finger-touchable direct manipulation of 2.5D visual objects with
gestures is the new emerging UI paradigm with personal navigation
devices. However, the new paradigm has not reached the web yet --
there is no way a web developer can embrace the new interaction. In
this project we will look into bringing finger touch and gestures
to the web framework in order to accelerate easy web usage with
mobile devices, with the goal of mobile devices becoming the
primary web access method instead of laptops.
This project is about:
To create innovative web representation platform
Multi-touch, accelerometer (rotation, shaking) and haptics based
interaction mechanisms
Enriching the mobile web content with 2.5D graphics with hardware
accelerated rendering
New JavaScript interaction APIs, Haptics CSS extensions
Have you looked at the WebKit team's proposal for 2.5D graphics and
transitions?
http://webkit.org/specs/CSSVisualEffects/CSSTransforms.html
http://webkit.org/specs/CSSVisualEffects/CSSTransitions.html
These are now on track to become W3C standards and are already
implemented on iPhone (2D portions only on desktop WebKit currently).
Also, have you looked at how touch and accelerometer events work on
Safari on iPhone?
I am excited to see contributions from Nokia, but we would want to
make sure that advanced WebKit features remain consistent in API
between platforms.
Regards,
Maciej
High Level Architecture: (disclaimer: this is only high level
architecture and some aspects might change during the project)
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What we have already up and running:
- Prototype implementation OpenGL ES 1.1 accelerated QT-WebKit
running on ARM based Internet Tablet device (such as N810),
reference implementations of the draft JS API's are somewhat
working (no haptics yet tough). JavaScript test pages receives
touch gesture DOM and accelerometer events quite nicely.
I'm wondering if people in this mailing list would be interested to
look and give feedback/comments to our JS API draft versions and
general feedback for us to see if this would be beneficial for end
users. More detailed draft architecture specifications are also
available upon request.
Our intention is to start contributing our implementation efforts
back to open source, if WebKit community would be interested to
receive it? :)
You can also find me in IRC idling 24/7 on #webkit channel with
nick: Jonni
Regards, Jonni
--
Jonni Rainisto
Specialist, Nokia Devices R&D / Technology Strategy and
Architecture / Technology Foresight / New Technology Initiatives
Gsm: +358 50 3038358 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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