On Sep 17, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Darin Fisher wrote:



For <a ping> to be used as I suggested, you would need to set the href to a javascript URL such as javascript:void(), so that it would not interfere with an existing navigation.

Navigating to a javascript: URL will still cancel with an existing pending navigation, both per spec and in at least some browser engines (including WebKit). For spec reference see step 5 here: <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#navigate >. Note lack of exception for "javascript:" URLs.

I think it would also be necessary for the ping to be sent during the default event handler instead of when the href is normally processed.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting, but link clicks are currently processed in the default event handler for HTMLAnchorElement.

As for guaranteeing completion of I/O started during unload, I am fairly concerned about the code complexity that would result from allowing some resource loads to go uncanceled at page navigation time. Pings are different since they are fire and forget, but other resource loads, which normally get read and processed by the frame / loader system are a bit problematic to keep active. We'd want to put them in a special mode where they don't get canceled but also don't get processed when their responses arrive. There may be a clean way to do this, but I am concerned about the potential maintenance cost due to the extra mode for resource loading.


Yes, it would be somewhat tricky, but the proposed <a ping> solution simply doesn't work. Even if there was a way to make it work, it would be pretty hard to use correctly, and not an intuitive choice.

Here's what would need to happen to let loads from unload run to completion:

1) Implement a way to track all entities that start loads during unload (all owners of ResourceHandles, say). 2) Add a way (perhaps via an abstract base class) for all such entities to release their ResourceHandle to another owner and then cancel themselves. 3) Add code after unload finishes to create an object that takes ownership of all these ResourceHandles, and stays alive until they all complete their loads (dropping results on the floor).

I don't think this would be much harder than it would be to implement <a ping>. The only hard part really is #1, particularly making sure we've caught all possible kinds of resource loads.

Yet another possibility: we could introduce a Ping object or sendPing() method that performs a ping without the need to follow a link, and guarantees the I/O won't be cancelled due to navigation. That would localize the need for added complexity. The downside is we'd have to either get it into standards or do something WebKit- specific.

A third possibility: limit unload persistence to Image and XMLHttpRequest, to limit the complexity. That's assuming sites are not using scripts, stylesheets or frames to do the exit ping - I don't know if that's a good assumption.

Regards,
Maciej

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