Maybe making EWS bots build already r+'ed patches could help here as well. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Andras Becsi <abe...@inf.u-szeged.hu> wrote:
> Dear WebKit Community, > > In the past few weeks there were several occasions where Apple-WebKit2 > developers ignored the red Qt EWS on Bugzilla and nonetheless committed > their patches and let the Qt bot stay red for several hours without any sign > of trying to fix the issues (mostly introduced by thoughtlessness), or > asking for help on IRC, or even the webkit-qt mailing list, or CC'ing > somebody to the bug who might be able to help fixing the problems before > hosing the tree, like with these bugs: > > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47281 > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47239 > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47097 > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46585 > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46432 > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46054 > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46043 > > This is making the lives of the maintainers miserable because if a bot is > already red it is completely ignored by other developers, which makes it > really hard to catch up. > I respectfully think that this kind of arrogant and ignorant way of > development does real harm to the community. > We have a really fast Qt EWS and the build failures weren't complex ones, > the EWS would have only needed a minute more than the style-bot to have a > nice output where the errors caused by left-in old API calls or old includes > or left-out extra compiler definitions would have shown themselves, and I do > not think waiting this few minutes would hurt anyone. Especially because > this kind of behaviour is not only disrespectful to us, but also to Eric and > Adam who are working hard to make these awsome QA technologies possible. > > Comments like this https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47097#c10 are > really frustrating, because all contributors are supposed to bother with the > Mac xcodeproj files and their cryptic hashes, too (not to talk about the > other nearly dozen build systems) if they implement something, and > stringently have their patches checked on all the EWS. > > Surpassing all my private disappointment, I think IRC, Bugzilla, the EWS's > and other buildbots aren't there to force some kind of an unwanted ritual on > developers, in which they only upload patches to Bugzilla to conform some > policy, but to make collaboration possible. > > I do not want my letter to be looked at as an offense or attack, I'd rather > like to kindly ask the responsile ones to stop the ignorant and > discriminative way of handling other ports, and at least try to show some > respect on other developers work. > > Sorry, if this souded like an offense. > > WBR, > Andras Becsi > > On behalf of the QtWebKit Team at the University of Szeged > _______________________________________________ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev > -- --Antonio Gomes
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