On 2012-01-25 00:02, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote:

24.01.2012, в 14:33, Julian Reschke написал(а):

I know you don't like it but please stop spreading FUD. RFC 5987 allows senders 
to send the same thing to all clients without UA sniffing. If you have a 
different proposal for which this is true please go ahead and write it down.

What exactly am I spreading FUD about?

"has no purpose here"

That's not fear, uncertainty, or doubt.

Again, please make a proposal that is deployable and works without UA sniffing. 
I'm listening.

RFC 6266 doesn't work without UA sniffing, and even more so as we consider 
deployed browser versions, not just latest ones.

a) no proposal does work with all legacy browsers

b) RFC 6266 works without UA sniffing if you're willing to serve plain ASCII to legacy browsers (IE < 9 and Safari)

An authoring requirement to send UTF-8 (except for a blacklist of browsers that 
don't support it), plus a browser algorithm that matches Safari (perhaps with 
RFC 5987 style encoding added as another legacy fallback) fit the bill if 
allowed to be on equal footing with the existing request for comments.

So please head over to Microsoft and ask them to make an incompatible change to their behavior. Good luck with that.

We had almost the same discussion over 15 months ago. I recommend you read the mailing list archives.

Best regards, Julian


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