On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Filip Pizlo <fpi...@apple.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Eric Seidel <e...@webkit.org> wrote: > > I wish we only had one build system (it were easy to add/remove/move files). > > I believe changes like http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/74849 are an > unhealthy sign for the project. Adam is not the only person who has chosen > to empty files instead of removing them. The pain of updating 8 build > system is so great, we jump through hoops to avoid it. Which means it took > us months to move JavaScriptCore/wtf to WTF, and will take us years to kill > WebCore/platform. > > > +1 > > This is a hard problem. It is a problem worth solving. > > Do you have more thoughts on this, particularly since you know quite well > how both Xcode and gyp work? > > I suspect this is one of those things that it would be hard to achieve > consensus on since there are so many stakeholders. But it may be fruitful > to have a "what if" discussion about what this might look like. >
I think we can solve this problem if we agree that we want to. I think we haven't in the past mostly because we couldn't reach a consensus that it was worth solving enough to really try. I would love to see this fixed and would be glad to work on it. I think we should at least pursue this far enough to fully understand what our options are and what the costs and tradeoffs might be; does anyone disagree, and is anyone else willing to help pitch in? I think there are several possible ways we could solve this. One would be to switch to a common meta-build system. My understanding is that Apple's internal production build processes impose certain constraints here that I don't fully understand, but I know we've discussed the possibility of checking in generated project files as a workaround. Maybe there are other options as well to those constraints? I would love to discuss this further w/ someone from Apple ... (Also, just to get this out of the way, I don't think gyp needs to be the solution). Another alternative would be to write a script that did support at least the common use cases (add/move/delete files). There have been attempts in the past, but they have foundered on at least some perceived skepticism over how well this would work w/ XCode. That said, I don't think we've really pushed this to see. At some point this script might turn into a meta-meta-build system, which might be silly but also be the shortest path to the finish line. I suggest if there is interest in this we can start a new thread to discuss further ... -- Dirk _______________________________________________ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev