Hi

The naming of these methods also made it a bit confusing for me.

It appears that drawCustomFocusRing   just updates the accessibility rectangle 
-- while the system variant does that, and draws the normal focus ring. 
In the former case, it doesn't really draw anything, it just allows an AT to 
retrieve the bounding box of the focused item.

It seems that for this to be useful for ATs, you'd have to iterate every object 
in your canvas and call at least drawCustomFocusRing once. Then when the item 
actually did become focused, you'd have to call drawSystemFocusRing. 

I don't know what others think, but I think accessibility work is best done on 
demand.

In this case I could imagine something like a RectangleRequestEvent be 
dispatched that the canvas could intercept. 
        The event would have the Element in question as a data member of the 
Event.
        The canvas could set the rectangle in the event for that element 

Then this work would only have to be done when requested


On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Rik Cabanier <caban...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rn...@webkit.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Rik Cabanier <caban...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rn...@webkit.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rik Cabanier <caban...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rn...@webkit.org> wrote:
> The spec. text is also misleading in saying that 
> 
> The drawSystemFocusRing(element) method, when invoked, must run the following 
> steps:
> 
> If I understood your reply correctly, these are steps that need to be ran 
> continuously?  Or is it that steps 2 & 3 must run upon the currently focused 
> element being changed.  The specification needs to revised to clarify this.
> 
> I think non-normative text or a note could be added to make this more clear. 
> In general, the function should be called when the focus changes or the 
> element is relocated and the canvas should be redrawn.
> ...
> As is, the specification reads as if the author needs to repaint and call 
> drawSystemFocusRing upon focus change.
> 
> That is correct and what should happen.
> 
> 
> That seems to contract what you've said earlier:
> What is an AT? :-) You don't call drawSystemFocusRing when an element is 
> focused. You *always* call it and if it is focused, a ring will be drawn. In 
> all cases, the accessibility software is notified of the area.
> (AT stands for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assistive_technology).
> 
> Am I correct in saying that the author needs to call this function each and 
> every time an element "inside" the canvas is focused?
> 
> No, he needs to ALWAYS call this function wether it's focused or not.
> 
> I understand that. My point is that the author has to explicitly repaint the 
> canvas and call drawSystemFocusRing when the focus changed for the focus ring 
> to be drawn.  i.e. UA can't later decide to draw the focus ring on its own.
> 
> That is correct. The accessibility software can though since it just draws on 
> top of the browser windows (and so can the web inspector)
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