On Oct 7, 2006, at 8:01 PM, Mike Emmel wrote:
On 10/7/06, Rob Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I disagree this has nothing to do with webkit: Is the webkit team
> aware that when printing half of all the web pages out there the
> output looks like doodoo?
>
> Whatever the CSS, having the pages print out in a totally ugly way
> is just plain silly. Surely using the "screen" stylesheet for
> printing is better than no stylesheet at all?
>
> I propose that WebKit use the "screen" stylesheet for printing if
> there is no "print" stylesheet present in the source document.
I think half of all web pages out there is probably an exaggeration.
I think most authors use "all" for the media type unless they are
specifically targeting the screen. The Surfin' Safari blog had
discussed a common mistake of using device dependent units when using
the "all" media type, but I guess WebKit already adjusts for that. I
could imagine a site targeting the screen with a design really only
meant for the screen. Printing using that CSS would be worst than
falling back on the default stylesheet.
take care,
Rob
Since the case of a screen only css style sheet can be detected does
it not make sense to make using it an option of the print dialogue. In
fact a more general ability to pick a alternative style sheet when
printing might have other uses.
Or this could be a user option in the browser turned on by default.
Or it could cause a warning or alert and let the use choose.
The chance of no style sheet vs screen only being correct in the real
world is probably close to zero.
As I said before, I think this is a discussion not too related to
WebKit, but more to the application developers who may use WebKit or
any other engine to create a user-agent. My understanding is that
WebKit already has the needed methods to handle this at the
application level.
However, let me just add that CSS is designed to give authors rich
capabillities in terms of presentation and when an author selects
"screen" instead of "all" as the media they're targeting for their
stylesheet, that says something. And it's something that user-agents
and users themselves should take seriously. Could it be a little
mistake with large consequences? Yes. But it couls also be the
authors intent. And building user-agents that gloss over those
mistakes just make the mistakes more prevalent. So if many authors
use a WebKit based application to test their designs and that
application makes "screen" seem like "all" then such mustakes will
proliferate. That's a concern that application developers should keep
in mind.
take care,
Rob
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