I'd be very much interested in your solution.

BTW, I can't find *presentation-dom-id* in the weblocks-dev.   Where
can I find it?

Yarek

On Jan 20, 1:31 am, Jan Rychter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yarek Kowalik <[email protected]> writes:
> > Here is an example why views are an inadequate rendering mechanism.
>
> > In my app I am using images representing products.  Not all images are
> > of the same dimensions.  I want every image to fit in an 80px by 80px
> > div.  I want the images to be scaled to fit into that dimension.
>
> > You'd think you can do that in HTML.  But HTML does not scale images
> > proportionally when you specify both the width and the height.   Since
> > I must guarantee to be no larger than 80px in any dimension, I
> > therefore must compute scaling on the server side.
>
> > Anyway, so you think, easy, lets write a subclass of IMAGE-
> > PRESENTATION that computes the scale and renders the value.    All you
> > need is a new RENDER-VIEW-FIELD-VALUE that does the scaling for you.
>
> > But, you cannot compute the desired dimensions and store them in
> > WIDTH and HEIGHT view slots and then call CALL-NEXT-METHOD to render
> > the image.   Views are SINGLETONS, and the presentations it uses are
> > effectively so too.  And so, modifying slot values in a view or
> > presentation is a bad idea, since then any parallel use of the view
> > (this happens with multiple users on the site) will have undesired
> > consequences.
>
> I had exactly the same problem, a number of times already. In one case I
> was able to work around this with a dynamic variable hack (see
> *presentation-dom-id* in weblocks).
>
> [...]
>
> > Right now is no easy path to move from the simple view to a more
> > complex representation without rewriting a whole lot of machinery in
> > your own app (like writing a lot of custom widgets).  That's a big
> > stumbling block to run into, and you can run into this late in the
> > game.
>
> True. In my case, I found that I often begin with views and
> presentations, then later throw them out in favor of widgets. I end up
> rewriting and reimplementing lots of stuff that way.
>
> I have an idea on how to solve this relatively cleanly while keeping
> most of the view machinery intact and sticking to the general idea that
> views have no state -- but I have to actually write some code and flesh
> it out. I'll post more on this soon.
>
> --J.
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