On Jun 5, 2006, at 7:10 PM, William Hatch wrote:


On Jun 5, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

I am wondering if that server has both launchd and SystemStarter controlling (or, rather, trying to) WebObjects.

"Both Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS X Server 10.4 have a new, more reliable mechanism for keeping applications running. It is called "launchd". It supersedes the "SystemStarter" and "watchdog" processes of previous systems. See the man pages launchd(8) and launchctl(1) for more information. The Server Admin application uses the files at /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/ com.apple.wotaskd.plist and /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/ com.apple.womonitor.plist to configure the wotaksd and JavaMonitor applications; and launchd keeps the apps running, based on the information in these files. The scripts which formerly restarted the wotaskd or JavaMonitor process after a restart are no longer needed and can be deleted. The launchd process will launch these applications after restart for you and restart them if they crash for any reason. If you want to change the way the wotaksd and JavaMonitor applications are managed, that can be done with the facilities provided by launchd and its associated tools."

Check the file /System/Library/StartupItems/WebObjects/WebObjects and ensure all the wotaskd and JavaMonitor startup lines are commented out.

They were not. So, I backed them up elsewhere and then deleted them, rebooted the server, and... it didn't work; I had to stop/ start the service and then start the apps from within Monitor. But, I was able to stop and start the service from within ServerAdmin as Tim mentioned in an earlier post. I guess I'll focus on the logging issues now...

Whoa, I spoke too soon. Just as I finished up sending the above response, I went back in to Monitor to start the rest of the apps, and they were all there; running nicely.

Chuck


On Jun 5, 2006, at 2:20 PM, William Hatch wrote:

Jackpot! That worked. Now, if only to figure out what the heck is actually going on. At least it's good to know that. I didn't know they'd folded some wo stuff into serveradmin. Thanks very much to all who helped out. Hmm, maybe it's time to look at container deployment a bit more closely.
On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Ronald P. Pfister wrote:

On Jun 5, 2006, at 18:39, William Hatch wrote:

This morning I started my week with all our production apps down. I'm able to log into Monitor, but when I try to start instances, the lever keeps going and going, no deaths, and I can't move it beyond this state. There was nothing in /var/log/ webobjects, so I rm'd it, then sudo touch logwebobjects, but still nothing. Restarts haven't helped. Monitor seems to be completely unresponsive. Where should I start?

I have a similar situation on an Xserve I'm administering that I couldn't track down so far. Apps simply won't start after a reboot. Using...

serveradmin stop webobjects
serveradmin start webobjects

...fixes the problem reliably - until the next reboot/shutdown. That's WO 5.2.4 on OSXS 10.4.6. Not a cure, but maybe a workaround?

HTH,

Ron


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