I think this was originally a framework from David Neumann who worked at Apple. So in a way... I will say that I have never used this framework. I have always found ways to maintain data freshness using the tools provided in EOF. I don't think that one way is always better than the other. The EOF way may produce more DB reads that are needed. The notification framework will pass a lot messages around about data not relevant to an instance. Certainly, adding the notification framework is the less effort way of handling this.

Chuck


On Mar 31, 2006, at 11:39 AM, James Cicenia wrote:

Wow... confusion reigns... You would think this is one place where Apple would have stepped in.


On Mar 31, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Jean-François Veillette wrote:

Beware that the wonder implementation distribute changes snapshot and tries to apply them to the database cache. Unfortunately, under load, you will realise that this is causing a deadlock. I haven't got to the point where I was able to debug this strategy. Maybe you just need another lock somewhere in the eo stack to prevent the dead lock, I do not know at that point. Maybe someone can look at this.

Anyway, I started with wonder's code and used a different strategy that I had seen already and was talked numerously here on the mailing list, which is to publish globalID of changed eo (and not diffs), and simply invalidate eos based on those globalIDs at the subscriber's end.
We didn't have any locking problem since !

- jfv

Le 06-03-31, à 14:09, Ken Anderson a écrit :

No, not really. I personally really like how lightweight WHChangeNotification is. I'm using a modified version of it because I already have a pub/sub system that my apps are participating in. It really depends on your Wonder threshold :)

Ken

On Mar 31, 2006, at 2:02 PM, James Cicenia wrote:

Ok -

So you are saying that I *should* use the Wonder version instead? If so, is it stand alone, or, do I need ERX my classes etc.?

- James


On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

James,

You need to configure it to know what instances you have, and what classes you want distributed.

I believe the version available uses direct connect, so you'll have to make sure that it's enabled.

There have been some concerns about issues with the direct connect transport mechanism... it's suggested that you use some other type of transport like JMS. I also believe that project wonder has something similar to WHChangeNotification that already uses JMS.

Ken

On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:28 PM, James Cicenia wrote:

Hello -

Now that we went multiple instances, we are having refresh problems and since this is a multi-user type application our customer are now complaining. Basically, changes in one instance are not reflected in the other.

So, I perused the list and found WHChangeNotification as the magic answer. I downloaded it, made it into a framework in Eclipse, and imported it, set the configurations carefully, and have uploaded it to dev for testing.

No change in behavior!

Is there a magic step I am missing?

Thanks
James Cicenia
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