On 28 Jun 2006, at 22:08, Miguel Arroz wrote:
Rails is an interesting contender, and I'm glad to see a new well
designed framework on the field. But it is still very young and
has a long way to go before it equals the richness of WO.
1 month = 30 * day... rails has some funny stuff, but lacks the
"serious" stuff...
You mean "fun", not "funny". That's a common misuse of English that
is cropping up on lists more and more recently.
I tend to dislike the "oh look, it's sooooo easy" frameworks that
are growing like mushrooms out there. Considering that a month is
30 days is not simplification... it's ridiculous! This way I also
can write many frameworks! :) My point is, rails is simple, rails
allows you (and specially, people who know almost zero about
programming) to make something work in 30 minutes.
I'm going to disagree with the initial point of this. WO and Rails
take exactly as long as each other to get started with your first
working app. The "learning curve" is more or less the same for both
technologies. Rails is most emphatically NOT simple; it is a complex
framework, exactly as it should be. The tradeoffs between Rails and
WO are there, and general opinion here gives WO the edge still;
search this list for a couple of good comparisions between the two.
But when things start to become more complex, rails will not
support you like a serious framework like WO does. WO is like
Cocoa, it requires to to learn a bunch of stuff before staring.
After staring, you have to learn even more. But then you start
evolving and creating some really clever solutions to your complex
problems in as easy, straightforward and, most important, ELEGANT
way, that other frameworks simply cannot achieve.
Complexity and ease of understanding are important points; someone
without an OO background cannot begin to grasp the significance of
MVC, for instance.
Paul
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