On Aug 11, 2006, at 7:38 PM, Robert Walker wrote:

Hi all,

I did some experimenting with WOProject/WOLips today.  I posted my impressions on my blog page in case anyone is interested.  I'd love to hear your feedback.

Here's the link:

  I feel your pain. Eclipse can be kind of a pain to use until you get used to it. Basically, I ended up talking my boss into two 20" widescreen monitors ($299 each at Fry's last week). One for Eclipse, one for everything else. It's very Windows 3.1 with its "tiled windows" approach. Then again, Xcode has a mode like this too (I just don't use it), and it is possible to "undock" windows in Eclipse. 

  However, I have to say that Eclipse is worth it. Eclipse really, really, "groks" Java code
I would say the math works like this:

   Productivity gained due to Eclipse features:  10%
   Productivity lost due to Eclipse being designed by open-source Java programmers: -1%
-------------
 Net Productivity gain: 9%

   Hey, that's cool features of Eclipse: 25%
   Pain of annoying UI quirks of Eclipse (The "where is that?" syndrome) which always hit
   you when you have a fix a bug, like yesterday...: -15%
  -----------------
    Net Coolness: 10%

     Utility of new WOLips tools (Rule Editor/Entity Modeler): 100%
     Utility of Apple equivalents: -10%
  -------------------
     Net Gain: 90%

  Cost of two 20" Widescreen monitors: $598
  Playing Counterstrike on two monitors: :-)

   So do I "like" Eclipse? No.

   Would I go back to XCode? No.

    So stick with it Rob. Besides, WOLips maintains XCode projects in parallel, so its sort of
 risk-free to try it. 

   Pierce

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